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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: R.R. on October 24, 2011, 11:29:23 PM

Title: New Cain spot
Post by: R.R. on October 24, 2011, 11:29:23 PM
There is something about this ad that works, although I can't put my finger on what it is. It is definitely unique; I will give them that. I'm not sure where or when this is going to run.



Now is the time for action! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhm-22Q0PuM#ws)
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: BT on October 24, 2011, 11:36:44 PM
Cain just picked up the smoker vote.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 24, 2011, 11:43:31 PM
I'll tell you what it is. It's what I have liked about Cain all along. He isn't going to slick salesmen sell you. He isn't going to sugar coat things, he will tell it like it is. And if this guy in the ad wants to smoke I could care less because he's a big boy and understands the risks. You can tell the guy in the ad wouldn't be doing what he's doing if he didn't believe in Cain.

So what, I could care less if Cain screwed up the abortion question a few days ago. I just know I can trust him and that's 90% of the battle. His uniqueness is that he isn't slick packaged, phrase tested, playing cautious with his words and trying to bamboozle us with buzz words and phony baloney politic speak; he's just being Herman Cain and I like that.

I'm tired of the every hair in it's place politician that can't say what's really on his mind because if he did nobody would elect him.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: BT on October 24, 2011, 11:59:08 PM
That shit eating grin at the end had me pausing for a second
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: R.R. on October 25, 2011, 02:00:48 AM
Cain's theme song.

I Am America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw#ws)
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 25, 2011, 10:06:55 AM
Ho-hum.

So some smoker likes Cain. There is no real message here.

Cain is different! blah, blah, blah.

BFD.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 25, 2011, 12:26:51 PM
Ho-hum.

So some smoker likes Cain. There is no real message here.

Cain is different! blah, blah, blah.

BFD.

Go watch Seseme Street, play with your rattle, and crap in your depends! Then eat your banana pudding.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: R.R. on October 26, 2011, 12:29:58 AM
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Ho-hum.

So some smoker likes Cain. There is no real message here.

Cain is different! blah, blah, blah.

BFD.

And yet you couldn't resist responding.

I love this ad.

Obama has to hide in a corner somewhere and take a smoke because he's too afraid for anybody to see what he's doing. Here's an ad by Cain that is in your face. That is a real, hard working American showing some enthusiasm for his candidate. It's real. 

I didn't get a chance to watch any cable news today, so I don't know if the liberal left was in a tizzy about it.

But I hope they were. It shows a conservative white guy supporting a black guy, which is a no no with the liberal left because we are supposed to be racists. It shows somebody smoking, which is a no no to the liberal left, but guess what? real people go to work and relax and have a smoke.

I don't even know if this ad is supposed to run on the air, but it's great.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 26, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
The ad proves that you can get a White guy to endorse a Black guy and smoke a cigarette if you pay him money. The ad says nothing other than Smoking Man likes Cain.

I see Smoking Man has aged a bit and grown a mustache since he was on the X Files.

It looks like they made the ad, then put it on the Web to see how well it works before actually paying real money to put it on the tube.

Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 26, 2011, 12:40:51 AM
The ad proves that you can get a White guy to endorse a Black guy and smoke a cigarette if you pay him money. The ad says nothing other than Smoking Man likes Cain.

I see Smoking Man has aged a bit and grown a mustache since he was on the X Files.

It looks like they made the ad, then put it on the Web to see how well it works before actually paying real money to put it on the tube.

You are too narrow-minded to be a judge of the ad. Your opinions don't count nor matter because you are a blow-hard liberal.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 26, 2011, 12:46:52 AM
Yeah, insults are all you have. Not even clever ones.

You are not just rude, but a bore as well.

Grow up, you foul twit.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 26, 2011, 12:49:13 AM
Yeah, insults are all you have. Not even clever ones.

You are not just rude, but a bore as well.

Grow up, you foul twit.

Next time you tell me something you like about Cain, Newt or the Republican field or even a Republican ad and then I will be worried.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: BT on October 26, 2011, 12:50:11 AM
He Carried Yellow Flowers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSlC7BxmSqY#ws)
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 26, 2011, 10:52:10 AM
Yeah, Herman Cain has sold real pizzas. Or managed people who sold real pizzas. Not as good as Papa Johns or Little Ceasar's, maybe not even as good as Domino's.

But that means he can run a country. All he needs to do is get Congress to pass a cockamamie tax gimmick based on a successful video game.

He's keep uppity Negroes from spitting on peoples' boots, too.

Big effing deal.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 26, 2011, 11:05:39 AM
Yeah, Herman Cain has sold real pizzas. Or managed people who sold real pizzas. Not as good as Papa Johns or Little Ceasar's, maybe not even as good as Domino's.

But that means he can run a country. All he needs to do is get Congress to pass a cockamamie tax gimmick based on a successful video game.

He's keep uppity Negroes from spitting on peoples' boots, too.

Big effing deal.

What set of qualifications did you use back in 2008 when basing your vote for Obama?
I dare say two: 1. his negroness 2. his radical liberalism

I think Herman Cain is a much better choice over Obama.

Why would anyone want to reelect Obama when clearly he's no more experienced than he was 3 years ago in that clearly he never learns from his mistakes, i.e. he seems to want more and more Stimulus but can't learn that it's not working. Do you know the definition of insanity? Your name would be in the definition.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 26, 2011, 01:21:06 PM
The stimulus was inadequate, as all the experts said at the time.

The Republicans think that the Recession should "run its course", which means they would do nothing at all. Except tax the poor and middle class more heavily and reward the rich even more. Unemployment will likely settle down to around a high of 8%, if that.

Obama was clearly a better choice than McCain in 2008. He is a far better choice than this blowhard crackpot pizza guy who got 26.2% when he ran for senator in the only election he has ever entered. For the last few years, Cain has been a "motivational speaker". That is hardly any sort of executive experience.

As for your opinion, it is infantile. All you want to do is sound off like Rush or something. But you are not half a clever as Rush. You are not ever funny, just obnoxious, and a bore.


Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: R.R. on October 26, 2011, 01:31:57 PM
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He is a far better choice than this blowhard crackpot pizza guy who got 26.2% when he ran for senator in the only election he has ever entered. For the last few years, Cain has been a "motivational speaker". That is hardly any sort of executive experience.

There was no Tea Party when Cain first ran, and he also didn't have a 999 plan. Cain gained experiance running a campaign. As you probably don't know, Obama lost his first election for congress, badly.

Everybody here knows Cain's business experience and background. Nice try.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 26, 2011, 01:41:54 PM
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He is a far better choice than this blowhard crackpot pizza guy who got 26.2% when he ran for senator in the only election he has ever entered. For the last few years, Cain has been a "motivational speaker". That is hardly any sort of executive experience.

There was no Tea Party when Cain first ran, and he also didn't have a 999 plan. Cain gained experiance running a campaign. As you probably don't know, Obama lost his first election for congress, badly.

Everybody here knows Cain's business experience and background. Nice try.

Why can't XO understand that Obama is a big fat zero when compared to Cain and his years of experience and education and proven track record of SUCCESS. What successes has Obama got to brag about?
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: sirs on October 26, 2011, 01:45:15 PM
Well, that question was asked, on multiple occasions, and instead of even just 1 serious answer, we've been privvy to a mountain of insults & snarking
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 26, 2011, 02:02:58 PM
How is losing a Senate election with a pathetic 26.2% of the vote SUCCESS?

LOSING is not a success. Being elected president as the first Balck man to do so is success.
Getting any sort of healthcare bill through Congress is SUCCESS.
Removing Bin Laden and a host of other baddies is SUCCESS.


Godfather's Pizza is a second-rate operation that Burger King dumped because it was not making money.

It is still poorly known and second to all.

How many Godfather's Pizza locations do you know of? I know of none at all. I may have heard a couple of commercials for them. It is a crappy name: what sort of ingredients would a Mafioso make a pizza with? Stolen ingredients? Smuggled ingredients? Expired ingredients? Gangsters are not noted for their cooking abilities.

Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: R.R. on October 26, 2011, 02:19:36 PM
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Being elected president as the first Balck man to do so is success.

Now he has to be removed because he is a dismal failure.

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Getting any sort of healthcare bill through Congress is SUCCESS.

Which has to be repealed because nobody wants it.

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Removing Bin Laden and a host of other baddies is SUCCESS.

Yeah a success for our Seals. Obama had little to do with it.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: R.R. on October 26, 2011, 02:24:49 PM
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How many Godfather's Pizza locations do you know of?

There is one pretty close and two within 30 minutes.  I'm looking forward to trying it.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 26, 2011, 03:14:49 PM
How is losing a Senate election with a pathetic 26.2% of the vote SUCCESS?

LOSING is not a success. Being elected president as the first Balck man to do so is success.
Getting any sort of healthcare bill through Congress is SUCCESS.
Removing Bin Laden and a host of other baddies is SUCCESS.


Godfather's Pizza is a second-rate operation that Burger King dumped because it was not making money.

It is still poorly known and second to all.

How many Godfather's Pizza locations do you know of? I know of none at all. I may have heard a couple of commercials for them. It is a crappy name: what sort of ingredients would a Mafioso make a pizza with? Stolen ingredients? Smuggled ingredients? Expired ingredients? Gangsters are not noted for their cooking abilities.

1. If Cain is elected president he will be the first black elected POTUS, but he's running as an American

2. Health Care - If I had both the House & Senate I could pass anything too -BFD

3. Osama - how hard is it to say YES kill him and film me as it's happening so I can take credit for all the work. BFD
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 26, 2011, 03:15:24 PM
There is one pretty close and two within 30 minutes.  I'm looking forward to trying it.

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By all means, choose your food from places once associated with crackpot blowhard politician wannabees. There can be no better endorsement.

We all know that the Mafia has all the best recipes. The fact that you have not tried it before sort of defines its importance.



Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Plane on October 26, 2011, 11:24:21 PM
One of Cains former jobs was professional Mathmatician.

I like this, seems like an appropriate skill set, usefull to the money problems we have.

 Money obeys mathmatical laws , not romantic notions.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 26, 2011, 11:56:41 PM
I hardly believe that the economic problems of the country are due to an inability to do math. A president can hire mathematicians, and (much more important) accountants. The problem is that Congress wants to spend money that it does not have. Everyone knew that the Iraq war was going to cost a fortune,and no move was made to raise taxes to pay for it. That was not due to the president not knowing math.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 27, 2011, 12:06:37 AM
I hardly believe that the economic problems of the country are due to an inability to do math. A president can hire mathematicians, and (much more important) accountants. The problem is that Congress wants to spend money that it does not have. Everyone knew that the Iraq war was going to cost a fortune,and no move was made to raise taxes to pay for it. That was not due to the president not knowing math.

Taxes never have to be raised, just cut spending in wasteful areas. There is plenty of money taken in by taxation. Idiots like you should be cut off before soldiers. You should pay for your own health care. The government job isn't to give you free shit, it's to protect the citizens with a well armed military.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Plane on October 27, 2011, 12:08:20 AM
I hardly believe that the economic problems of the country are due to an inability to do math.


     Beleive it or not , here we are.

     If we replaced our politician class with math teachers , CPAs, rocket scientists and polymath validictorians we would still have a government as wastefull and shortsighted?

      I beleive diffrently than you do , but arethmatic does not care what either of us beleive.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 27, 2011, 01:06:57 AM
Politics is the art of bringing people together in a spirit of compromise. We had one engineer and probable genius as president, Herbert Hoover. He was not a people person, at least when it came to running the country. He was pretty much a disaster.

There was a chance to elect Steve Forbes,and it failed rather pitifully. I am not sure of Forbes' abilities at math. His magazine tends to be overly favorable of anyone who advertises in it, but it is clearly appealing to a target audience.

Cain won't get the nomination. Changing tax laws is not all that appealing. Most people do not do their own taxes, they pay someone else to do them.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: sirs on October 27, 2011, 03:41:36 AM
Most people do not do their own taxes, they pay someone else to do them.

Most of the time, its because they're so damn complex, with thousands of pages in our current tax code, and a Federal government just itching to sick the IRS after you if you dare not pay "your fair share"
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Plane on October 27, 2011, 08:07:20 PM
Politics is the art of bringing people together in a spirit of compromise. We had one engineer and probable genius as president, Herbert Hoover. He was not a people person, at least when it came to running the country. He was pretty much a disaster.

There was a chance to elect Steve Forbes,and it failed rather pitifully. I am not sure of Forbes' abilities at math. His magazine tends to be overly favorable of anyone who advertises in it, but it is clearly appealing to a target audience.

Cain won't get the nomination. Changing tax laws is not all that appealing. Most people do not do their own taxes, they pay someone else to do them.


We have also elected a Nuclear Engineer, and we were disapointed that time too.
You may have a point , that math skill is not enough alone.
My counter point is that even so the lack of good math skill is critical when so many of our serious problems are mathmatical in nature.
If we elect someone who has to hire a mathmatician , but won't understand the hireling, we will be run by the unelected hireling.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 27, 2011, 08:10:12 PM
Politics is the art of bringing people together in a spirit of compromise. We had one engineer and probable genius as president, Herbert Hoover. He was not a people person, at least when it came to running the country. He was pretty much a disaster.

There was a chance to elect Steve Forbes,and it failed rather pitifully. I am not sure of Forbes' abilities at math. His magazine tends to be overly favorable of anyone who advertises in it, but it is clearly appealing to a target audience.

Cain won't get the nomination. Changing tax laws is not all that appealing. Most people do not do their own taxes, they pay someone else to do them.


We have also elected a Nuclear Engineer, and we were disapointed that time too.
You may have a point , that math skill is not enough alone.
My counter point is that even so the lack of good math skill is critical when so many of our serious problems are mathmatical in nature.
If we elect someone who has to hire a mathmatician , but won't understand the hireling, we will be run by the unelected hireling.

Isn't Cain being a full-blooded black man enough to be qualified for POTUS?

We all know being a mulatto was all Obama needed to win the election back in 2008.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Plane on October 27, 2011, 08:13:50 PM
Isn't Cain being a full-blooded black man enough to be qualified for POTUS?

We all know being a mulatto was all Obama needed to win the election back in 2008.


    Will we eventually show some intrest in content of caricter?

     You seem to be saying that we still care more about the color of the skin.

      Positive or negative , that is wrong.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 27, 2011, 08:35:32 PM
Isn't Cain being a full-blooded black man enough to be qualified for POTUS?

We all know being a mulatto was all Obama needed to win the election back in 2008.


    Will we eventually show some intrest in content of caricter?

     You seem to be saying that we still care more about the color of the skin.

      Positive or negative , that is wrong.

I'm not voting for Cain because he's black. I could care less what he looks like, what church he attends or doesn't. His character does matter to me. And if his campaign manager smokes that's OK too. I just like Herman Cain for who Herman Cain is.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Plane on October 27, 2011, 08:42:46 PM
Isn't Cain being a full-blooded black man enough to be qualified for POTUS?

We all know being a mulatto was all Obama needed to win the election back in 2008.


    Will we eventually show some intrest in content of caricter?

     You seem to be saying that we still care more about the color of the skin.

      Positive or negative , that is wrong.

I'm not voting for Cain because he's black. I could care less what he looks like, what church he attends or doesn't. His character does matter to me. And if his campaign manager smokes that's OK too. I just like Herman Cain for who Herman Cain is.


  Yes , me too.  I find his biography compelling , his resume includes several skills I wish our leadership had more of and not least of all I appreaciate his roughhewn charm.

    I don't actually think he is perfect , but I don't let perfection destroy good.
Title: Re: New Cain spot
Post by: Kramer on October 27, 2011, 08:46:26 PM
Isn't Cain being a full-blooded black man enough to be qualified for POTUS?

We all know being a mulatto was all Obama needed to win the election back in 2008.


    Will we eventually show some intrest in content of caricter?

     You seem to be saying that we still care more about the color of the skin.

      Positive or negative , that is wrong.

I'm not voting for Cain because he's black. I could care less what he looks like, what church he attends or doesn't. His character does matter to me. And if his campaign manager smokes that's OK too. I just like Herman Cain for who Herman Cain is.


  Yes , me too.  I find his biography compelling , his resume includes several skills I wish our leadership had more of and not least of all I appreaciate his roughhewn charm.

    I don't actually think he is perfect , but I don't let perfection destroy good.

And another thing about Cain is he will do what's right for all Americans. With Obama it was clear to me from the beginning that he only cares about his group and to hell with you if you aren't in his group.