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sirs

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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2014, 11:39:45 PM »
Most of the deficits are the result of wars that we did not need to fight, weapons that have never been needed, payments to the widows, orphans and permanently disabled that were the result of useless wars.

No.

We have been spending more on social programs than defense for many years now.


Exactly

"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2014, 11:43:15 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2014, 12:05:48 AM »
I looked it up and got sidetracked. why on earth is veterans benefits separate from military spending. I think that`s why veterans are getting short changed because of this. as somebody who knows many people in the military . budget allocation is a very tricky thing in the military . I`ve often sent food and supplies to friends going on sea because the navy tends often just store enough so toward the end it gets a touch scarce in some supplies.
lets just say it`s not uncommon for our servicemen to buy toilet paper out of thier own pocket often before a trip.
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43574
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For fiscal year 2013, the Department of Defense (DoD) requested about $150 billion to fund the pay and benefits of current and retired members of the military. That amount is more than one-quarter of DoD’s total base budget request (the request for all funding other than for military operations in Afghanistan and related activities)................

There isn't enough money in the world to pay a single person what his death is worth.

The soldier is either working for love , or is in the wrong work.

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« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2014, 02:23:07 AM »
thanks

social security? how is that even on the chart? last time I checked it`s paid from a different box on our paycheck stub. I`m not saying taxes are not paying for it but that`s because the government has been dipping into that. unless that`s how much the government owes social security.

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« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2014, 01:14:59 PM »
The part labelled "Defense Department" does not include payments to the families of dead and disabled soldiers or probably not the VA, either. Past wars are a major expense of our government.
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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2014, 01:18:15 PM »
Regardless the opinion of "major expense", the FACTS remain that they are not the source for "most of the deficit", as you had claimed
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« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2014, 08:13:31 PM »
The part labelled "Defense Department" does not include payments to the families of dead and disabled soldiers or probably not the VA, either. Past wars are a major expense of our government.

Oh?
I thought it was included.

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« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2014, 09:36:04 AM »
Most of the DEFICIT, not most of the budget, lamebrain.

Payments for wars past are not included within the Defense Dept budget, at t most of there not.
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« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2014, 11:33:19 AM »
So, you're just basing this on the mere opinion of what you deem needed vs not, as t relates to wars.  Since that has no factual support, I could say the same thing about all the massive about of waste and abuse with domestic spending.....i.e. Obamination care.  It certainly is not needed, and there are a whole host of Government services and bureaucracy that's not needed, thus causing most of the deficit
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« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2014, 08:02:12 PM »
Most of the DEFICIT, not most of the budget, ....


  Most of the spending?

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« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2014, 10:12:42 AM »
Total cost minus total revenues equals deficit, if more money is going out than is coming in.

This is not a difficult concept.
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« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2014, 09:37:42 PM »
Good , then since most of the outflow is social programs ,,,,


What remains unclear?

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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2014, 10:17:20 PM »
thanks

social security? how is that even on the chart? last time I checked it`s paid from a different box on our paycheck stub. I`m not saying taxes are not paying for it but that`s because the government has been dipping into that. unless that`s how much the government owes social security.

As taxes are taken they are spent, taxes taken for Social security are spent with the rest.

Probably a mistake.

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« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2014, 10:39:32 PM »
I did not claim that anything was unclear, did I?
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2014, 10:53:26 PM »
  So the majority of the deficit can be ascribed to the majority items of the spent budget.

  Most of our deficit is due to social programs because that is the majority of the spending.