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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on July 07, 2011, 12:46:53 AM

Title: Biowave
Post by: Plane on July 07, 2011, 12:46:53 AM
Biowave's neuromodulation pain therapy medical devices utilize a patented signal mixing technology to deliver therapeutic electrical signals through the skin into deep tissue to inhibit pain transmission, improve function and provide a significant carryover effect following treatment.
http://www.biowave.com/ (http://www.biowave.com/)

Biowave Corp. is a medical device manufacturer whose pain therapy products help patients manage pain and reduce the use of medications, such as opiates. Its devices deliver a therapeutic electrical signal into deep tissue in the body, blocking the transmission of pain. In addition to a version for clinicians, the company offers the BiowavePRO non-invasive neuromodulation system designed for individual use by athletes to reduce pain and enhance rehabilitation.

http://www.ecnmag.com/News/Feeds/2011/06/applications-medical-electronics-pain-therapy-device-gains-a-sure-grip/?et_cid=1778700&et_rid=45566411&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ecnmag.com%2fNews%2fFeeds%2f2011%2f06%2fapplications-medical-electronics-pain-therapy-device-gains-a-sure-grip%2f (http://www.ecnmag.com/News/Feeds/2011/06/applications-medical-electronics-pain-therapy-device-gains-a-sure-grip/?et_cid=1778700&et_rid=45566411&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ecnmag.com%2fNews%2fFeeds%2f2011%2f06%2fapplications-medical-electronics-pain-therapy-device-gains-a-sure-grip%2f)
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Kramer on July 07, 2011, 01:51:18 PM
I can see this as being useful in some cases but should not be used to treat the result of a condition that said condition could or should be repaired. In other words, pain happens for a reason and if you remove the reason for it then the pain should go away. If you can't remove the reason for the pain this technology would be highly beneficial. Certainly better than drugs because drugs have so many side effects that they mostly cause more serious problems for the patient than the initial reason for taking them, i.e. the person gets hooked or destroys their liver in trying to relieve back pain and discomfort.
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: kimba1 on July 07, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
actually that problem already exist. I normally with pain everyday, but got so used to I barely notice it. the people at the hospital had a difficult time trying to findout whats wrong with me because of it. they keep mistaken the morphine is taking hold,but it`s really me concentrating .
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Plane on July 07, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
I can see this as being useful in some cases but should not be used to treat the result of a condition that said condition could or should be repaired. In other words, pain happens for a reason and if you remove the reason for it then the pain should go away.


   This makes it seem as if the use by trainers on the football sidelines isn't really a good choice.
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Kramer on July 07, 2011, 08:42:44 PM
I can see this as being useful in some cases but should not be used to treat the result of a condition that said condition could or should be repaired. In other words, pain happens for a reason and if you remove the reason for it then the pain should go away.


   This makes it seem as if the use by trainers on the football sidelines isn't really a good choice.

Many highly paid athletes pay the price later in life for the abuse their bodies take. I guess that could be said for drug addicts too though.
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: kimba1 on July 07, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
after an injury it`s looks very usefull, during a game-nothing good will come of it. it no different than cortoid steroids and it will increase the chance of serious injury. it can definately be a career killer
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Plane on July 07, 2011, 09:00:16 PM
http://www.biowave.com/website/Images/GiantsSidelines.jpg (http://www.biowave.com/website/Images/GiantsSidelines.jpg)

(http://www.biowave.com/website/Images/GiantsSidelines.jpg)

I think I understand , the better this works to block the pain, the more likely a player is to aggrivate a fresh injury.

How would it be used responsibly?
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: kimba1 on July 07, 2011, 09:06:10 PM
I think it`s use to shorten recovery time. it`ll be use when the player is in physical therapy
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 08, 2011, 02:47:51 PM
Pain happens for a reason, but sometimes the reason is not a warning of anything that can be remedied.

If you break a bone, pain tells you not to put pressure on that bone. That is a useful thing.

If you have pain due to arthritis, eliminating the pain is not going to result in more arthritis or further harm.
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Kramer on July 08, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
Pain happens for a reason, but sometimes the reason is not a warning of anything that can be remedied.

If you break a bone, pain tells you not to put pressure on that bone. That is a useful thing.

If you have pain due to arthritis, eliminating the pain is not going to result in more arthritis or further harm.

So theoretically speaking could this work to make you less of a pain in the ass?
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Plane on July 08, 2011, 07:32:10 PM
 Granting that pain is very usefull, there are a lot of people who have more pain than they really need.

   If this turns out to be safe and reliable, I predict big sales for this product.
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: kimba1 on July 08, 2011, 07:40:50 PM
the problem it if you keep using you won`t know when you get serious hurt, like me when I thought I could sleep off my anerysm. a very serious close call there
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Kramer on July 08, 2011, 08:14:26 PM
Granting that pain is very usefull, there are a lot of people who have more pain than they really need.

   If this turns out to be safe and reliable, I predict big sales for this product.

there can be a price to pay when bucking nature.
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 09, 2011, 01:13:25 AM
Before you decide how to deal with pain, you need to establish what is causing it.

There is no danger to removing pain from a leg cramp or arthritis, for example.
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Kramer on July 09, 2011, 01:42:33 AM
Before you decide how to deal with pain, you need to establish what is causing it.

There is no danger to removing pain from a leg cramp or arthritis, for example.

How does one deal with a pain in the ass like you?
Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Plane on July 09, 2011, 05:18:00 AM
Before you decide how to deal with pain, you need to establish what is causing it.

There is no danger to removing pain from a leg cramp or arthritis, for example.

How does one deal with a pain in the ass like you?
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Title: Re: Biowave
Post by: Kramer on July 09, 2011, 12:56:46 PM
Before you decide how to deal with pain, you need to establish what is causing it.

There is no danger to removing pain from a leg cramp or arthritis, for example.

How does one deal with a pain in the ass like you?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1907619003/ref=asc_df_19076190031618787?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt1-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=1907619003 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1907619003/ref=asc_df_19076190031618787?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt1-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=1907619003)


One might read this.(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-vXAWjiFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

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