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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Kramer on October 02, 2011, 08:50:49 PM
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Did you know this about Herman Cain?
Herman Cain is running for president.
He’s not a career politician (in fact he has never held political office).
He’s known as a pizza guy, but there’s a lot more to him.
He’s also a computer guy, a banker guy, and a rocket scientist guy.
Here’s his bio:
Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
Master’s degree in Computer Science.
Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).
Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer
world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).
All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!
Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country.
Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets.
After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.
Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.
In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury.
He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.
He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time.
This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.
Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!
Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.
Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.
He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country).
This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.
After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!
Writer and public speaker.
He then started to write and speak on leadership.
His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.
Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).
He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid).
When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking,
Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century.
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He was now the owner of a restaurant chain.
No, I did not know this. I thought he was the CEO. I didn't know he owned Godfather's Pizza. That's fricken awesome.
Any idea of his net worth?
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Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century.
wow quite a resume!
compare that to a "community organizer"
ha!
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He was now the owner of a restaurant chain.
No, I did not know this. I thought he was the CEO. I didn't know he owned Godfather's Pizza. That's fricken awesome.
Any idea of his net worth?
Last week I emailed one of my black buddies asking him what he thought about Cain. He sent this information to me this afternoon. I assume it is accurate.
Not sure of his net worth but clearly he's a multimillionaire, maybe similar to Romney.
Yes this resume is very impressive. Cain's experience makes our boy presidents resume look pretty childish. I guess that is why he's a boy!
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you had me at
Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
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you had me at Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
Cain, as far as I can figure, is the only true Conservative running for president. And he's obviously got the required experience. I really really really like the fact that he's not an insider. I know that many people say that goes against a president but I want someone that wants to work for the people not for special interests or DC insiders. I believe Cain appreciates America and the American way. And clearly, unlike Obama, Cain knows how to work with all types of people from different places, backgrounds, and experiences.
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you had me at Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
This will knock you socks off!!!!!!!!!
Plane, speaking of math, watch this:
Herman Cain versus Bill Clinton.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WP5dYfBBzU#noexternalembed)
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Clinton was pretty brave to risk the possibility that a questioner smarter than himself might show up.
Talking to the public this way is becoming technically less difficult, but still politically unsafe.
One really good reason to vote in a smart canadate is that the incumbent will need to debate with him, I feel good about the potential for Herman to out think Barak.
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Clinton was pretty brave to risk the possibility that a questioner smarter than himself might show up.
Talking to the public this way is becoming technically less difficult, but still politically unsafe.
One really good reason to vote in a smart canadate is that the incumbent will need to debate with him, I feel good about the potential for Herman to out think Barak.
Plus if you think about it; clearly those people the put Cain up there completely underestimated him and I feel there is a racial component here that isn't being considered. In other words, they never thought he would asked what he did, and be as knowing as he was, and actually beat Clinton in the debate.
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Cain is a blowhard. he fusses and blusters about and seems to be a know-it-all, though he reveals little knowledge of foreign affairs.
He has a personality that will clash with Congress, and due to his lack of political experience, he would likely get into them over petty issues and his ranting would do no good.
This country does not like Black guys going off on everyone. In a couple of months I see him being seen as a reactionary Jesse Jackson.
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Cain is a blowhard. he fusses and blusters about and seems to be a know-it-all, though he reveals little knowledge of foreign affairs.
He has a personality that will clash with Congress, and due to his lack of political experience, he would likely get into them over petty issues and his ranting would do no good.
This country does not like Black guys going off on everyone. In a couple of months I see him being seen as a reactionary Jesse Jackson.
you are not living in reality. wake up brother, your train just left. You guys are toast!
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Listen to Cain. Do you really think anyone wants to hear that blowhard ranting from the White House for four years?
He is a cancer survivor. Odds are he'll drop dead before 2016.
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Listen to Cain. Do you really think anyone wants to hear that blowhard ranting from the White House for four years?
He is a cancer survivor. Odds are he'll drop dead before 2016.
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good he nothing to lose. he can leave a legacy.
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He has nothing.
He will lose. He will not be nominated.
How many votes did he get in that straw poll? It was fewer than 1000. 976 or something like that. Essentially, it is mostly symbolic.
The GOP will not run one Black man against another Black man.
They would not run anyone from the same state as the other party, either. At least, this has never happened.
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The GOP will not run one Black man against another Black man.
Why not?
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This would probably result in a third party candidate running, causing Cain to lose.
I don't see the GOP Oligarchy nominating Cain or any Black man, certainly not one that has never been elected to anything before.
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This would probably result in a third party candidate running, causing Cain to lose.
I don't see the GOP Oligarchy nominating Cain or any Black man, certainly not one that has never been elected to anything before.
I don't see the oligarchy controlling the outcome of the primaries. The best they can do is dry up funding, but as we have seen since Howard Dean the internet is a magical tool for harvesting the little peoples money.
You may be right and Cain does not win the nomination. But it won't be because the "oligarchy" stopped him. And it may be that the eventual winner hasn't officially entered the race, yet.
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Who do you mean when you say "oligarchy"?
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The Oligarchy is the wealthy caste that actually controls the Republican Party. They can call up contributors and tell them who to support, because they can contribute huge sums of money. More huge now, and with no accountability, die to the Supreme Court's lame decision to allow corporate contributions. They perhaps cannot decide who the candidate will be, but they surely can decide who is will NOT be. And they are all WORMS (White Old Rich Men).
Watch and see. Cain's straw poll victory was due to fewer than a thousand atypical people.
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The Oligarchy is the wealthy caste that actually controls the Republican Party.
And Plane in this bozos mind the Democrats are not controlled by an "oligarchy"
and it's just a total coincidence that Obama's administration is loaded with Wall Street,
banking, and Goldman Sachs type tycoons that were appointed after he was elected
"by the people"....LOL
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The Democrats are partly influenced by Wall Street types, but not to the extent that they have veto power over the party's candidates and platform. The Republicans are 90% controlled by an aristocracy of the wealthy, the Democrats less so, around 30%.
That is why the health care bill took so long and was so furgled with by guys like Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska.
They should have simply extended Medicare to the entire population, and would have done so if not for the machinations of insurance company money and various lobbies in Congress.
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They should have simply extended Medicare to the entire population, and would have done so if not for the machinations of insurance company money and various lobbies in Congress.
Did this happen while Democrats were a solid majority in Congress?
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Of course it did. Everyone knows this.
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Wendell Wilkie never won an elective office prior to winning the nomination to run against FDR in 1940 and my guess is the "oligarchy" had a stronger hold on politics then than they may now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Willkie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Willkie)
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Wendall Willkie is not actually a very good comparison, because, well, he lost. When you do something that doesn't work, it tends to have the effect of not trying it again.
Think of Wendall Willkie as the Hindenberg and the lesson learned was to stop filling dirigibles with Hydrogen.
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Wendall Willkie is not actually a very good comparison, because, well, he lost. When you do something that doesn't work, it tends to have the effect of not trying it again.
LOL...hasn't stopped Obama and the Dems
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Wendall Willkie is not actually a very good comparison, because, well, he lost. When you do something that doesn't work, it tends to have the effect of not trying it again.
Think of Wendall Willkie as the Hindenberg and the lesson learned was to stop filling dirigibles with Hydrogen.
Your claim was that the oligarchy would not allow anyone who had not won elective office be the parties nominee and you were shown to be wrong. He also ran in 44 but lost in the primaries.
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I really do not think that Wilkie is a valid comparison, because the Oligarchy running the GOP are not the same as those that were running it in 1940. After 71 years, no political movement is going to be the same. If there were still liberal Republicans like Wilkie, they might have a chance of winning the presidency. Huntsman is the absolute best candidate the GOP could nominate, but it looks like he is not going to make it.
Wilkie worked with FDR during the war and apparently Dewey was more liked by the GOP then.
Cain does not occupy the same place in the GOP now that Wilkie did in 1939.
I do not see Cain getting the nomination. If he were to do so, I doubt that he would be elected.
Time will tell.
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Quite an impressive level of backpedaling. We went from:
- NO WAY, in Hell Cain would ever get consideration
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- NO WAY in hell he'd get the nomination
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- Don't see him getting the nomination
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- If he were nomintated, doubt he'd be elected
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It is all the same thing.
Cain will fail. I see no way he will ever be president.
I am not backpedaling in any way. The voters will decide, anyway. Watch and see Cain go down in smoke and flames smelling of burned mozzarella and scorched anchovies.
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No its not....its a steady regression of even your position, where Cain went from a "never will" to a "probably not"
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I take it all back.
Just for you.
Cain will never be president.
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Nice try, but you didn't come close to taking it all back You only took a baby step.....you were adamant that he'd never get the nomination, much less President.
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Why do you think I need a snarky SOB like YOU to tell ME what I mean?
The truth is, I don't.
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LOL.........so transparent