<<So Clinton had the best business climate the world has ever seen . . . >>
I really don't know what that means. And even if I did know what it meant, how could the "business climate" affect the national debt? The business "climate" is good or bad for businessmen, the national debt is a measure of the prudence or imprudence of the government of the day.
<< . . .and our debt rose during his "surplusses" "only" two trillion?>>
in accordance with your earlier observation about surplus, I approached the absurdity of cro's statement with a different set of parameters not relying upon the concept of surplus, so I'm not sure why you are reinserting the term into the argument at this stage.
<<At the end of the Clinton term he hands over a ship of state with a hole in the bottom because a bubble was bursting . . . >>
So apparently a Republican administration which has eight years to fix a hole in the bottom of the ship of state is totally incapable of doing so, and yet cro is still more concerned with the potential debts to be run up by "tax and spend asshole Democrats" than by an administration which ran up more than TWICE the debt of its predecessor, blaming a "hole in the bottom" which in eight years they were unable to fix.
And also, you will have to explain to me - - since the Democrats are "socialists" but the Republicans are not - - how is it that a bursting bubble, which affects equities held by private interests exclusively, not by the U.S. government - - is going to affect the debt owed by the U.S. government to its creditors?? This has to be one of the wildest stretches of political fantasy even for you to attempt.
<< . . . then our financial centers get burned down by terrorists >>
Oh, were they government property too? Did it cost the U.S. government $4.350 trillion dollars to replace "its" two buildings?
<< . . . and the diffrence is only two trillian more than the growth of the debt during the "good times"?>>
Uh, excuse me, since the "non-socialist" Republican-controlled government of the U.S.A. did not own the business sector, which remained in private hands, how on earth did the misadventures and misfortunes of the business community force the stewards of the public purse to incur roughly $2.4 TRILLION more dollars of debt than their Democratic predecessors?
<<What is the diffrence supposed to be between peacetimes with a burgioning new industry ,and wartime with an attack on the capitolist corps?>>
If you remember, it was the Republicans who chose to make a "war" of this attack by nineteen men, first on the entire nation of Afghanistan and then - - incomprehensibly, in the view of most observers today - - on the nation of Iraq. The choice they made - - to go to war with TWO countries over an attack by 19 nationals of a third country - - was an initiative taken and pursued by Republican leaders, yet it is the "tax and spend asshole Democrats" that has cro in fear of her financial viability???
<<Next correct for inflation, the diffrence shrinks a little.>>
Not by any amount that would make cro's fears any less ridiculous, though.
<<Then account for the overall growth of the economy , so that the comparison of debts is purportional to the overall size of the sorce of payments and resorces availible. The Contental Congress had a debt load that was pitifull and outsized compared to their tax base , even though the total amount of debt seems rediculously small compared to todays debt , it was a worse debt then than now.>>
Sorry, but I am NOT going to get into a discussion with you about the finances and tax base of the Continental Congress, a little bit before my own time, believe it or not, and something about which I know absolutely jack-shit. Nor am I going to get into discussions about the nebulous "growth" of the economy, especially now when it appears that GDP is actually shrinking. How on earth an economy could have been deemed "growing" during the Bush years, when the trade deficit was perpetually expanding, the dollar shrinking and good jobs fleeing non-stop in every direction but home, is one of life's little mysteries to me, comparable perhaps to John Insane's fatuous declaration that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong." That the public debt was INCREASED by $4.350 TRILLION during a time when the economy was so clearly in the toilet is one of the grossest signs of the total incompetence of the Republican administration imaginable, and one more reason to scratch one's head in wonderment at the idea that one could be concerned about the ability to pay the debts of a "tax and spend asshole Democratic" administration. I mean, WHAT PLANET do these people live on?