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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: sirs on June 18, 2008, 04:51:25 PM
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Is it wrong for McCain to want more African Americans and less Muslims in the background of his events, where the TV will be on him? Doesn't that border on racial & religious bigotry?
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What is he doing to cause this?
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if he does
he might have to do some radical things.
my brother explained how a naturally republican group (african-americans) are greatly in the democratic party.
in the mid sixties some senator publicly stated the republican party will not back civil-rights and in a very short time the domocratic party got a increase in members.
and to this day not very much has changed in republican support to the black community.
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What is he doing to cause this?
Campaign handlers trying to portray him, in an apparent preconceived way.....the proper 'look" in front of the populace and the cameras, it would appear. anything wrong with that?
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Well It is kinda phony , but politics is kinda phony.
This surprises me , I would have expected McCains operatives to be seating all the browner faces up frount.
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So Plane votes for SOP? Just trying to keep tabs 8)
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in the mid sixties some senator publicly stated the republican party will not back civil-rights and in a very short time the domocratic party got a increase in members.
and to this day not very much has changed in republican support to the black community.
It was the Democratic party that refused to support civil rights in the '60s.
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IIRC if it wasn't for the vast majority of GOP support, the Civil Rights legislation, would not have passed. Meaning, a greater majority of Republicans supported Civil rights Legislation, than the majority of Democrats at the time
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There is no reason for American Blacks to support the GOP. The GOP is where the real racists have chosen to take refuge. The GOP is the party of the rich and superrich. The GOP is the party that seeks and has always sought to "prevent voter fraud" by denying Blacks the vote. The GOP has always tried to prevent raising the minimum wage, to prevent unions from having the right to organize.
The racists of the 1960's abandoned the Democratic Party and became Republicans. This was a deliberate effort of the GOP called the "Southern Strategy" to woo the bigots, the racists, and the rednecks away from Wallace.
Watch and see how both Blacks and Hispanics vote their pocketbooks and flee McCain like poison. Which to them, his policies are.
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There is no reason for American Blacks to support the GOP.
not quite true
I said blacks are naturally republicans for these reason
lincoln was a republican
if given a choice prayer will be in school and abortion will be illegal.
despite being in the democratic party ,blacks generally are quite conservative.
but a shift happened in the 60`s
unfortunately i need a day to get the name of that senator
spiro agnew was really upset when it happened
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lincoln was a republican
if given a choice prayer will be in school and abortion will be illegal.
despite being in the democratic party ,blacks generally are quite conservative.
but a shift happened in the 60`s
unfortunately i need a day to get the name of that senator
spiro agnew was really upset when it happened
Lincoln is dead. There is nothing of Lincoln in the Republican Party today, just as there is nothing of Buchanon in the Democratic Party. I mean President James Buchanon, not Patrick Buchanon.
Black people do not oppose abortions, just a few of their preachers. Do not confuse the preachers because they are loud and loquacious with the people they purport to represent.
Prayer in the schools is a minor issue with them: the ones who are truly religious go to church at least twice a week.
I do not know what senator you are referring to.
Spiro Agnew was a shill, hired as Nixon's attack dog. Nixon on the attack was something hardly anyone could stand, so he got Agnew to do it for him. All of Agnew's speeches were written for him.
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How do you get everything Backwards?
Nixons Southern Strategy WAS George Wallace ,who soaked up the Democratic strength there.
Nixon did not do anything at all to gain a racist vote.
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How do you get everything Backwards?
You need to consider the source. There in lies the answer to your query
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lincoln was dead but he did have quite abit of influence with the black community at the time
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It was the Democratic party that refused to support civil rights in the '60s.
Yeah, LBJ, JFK, RFK were all against civil rights. NOT!
Nixons Southern Strategy WAS George Wallace ,who soaked up the Democratic strength there.
Nixon did not do anything at all to gain a racist vote.
BULLSH*T!
After Wallace got himself shot. his campaign fell apart.
Then Nixon got the racist vote.
Strom Thurmond and a whole passel of Southern Democrats fled the Democratic Party and became Republicans.
I suppose your clever theory is that the racists will all vote for Obama, because they are Democrats and everyone knows how all Democrats are racists. I hear that Obama was planning to burn a cross on his own front lawn before is psychiatrist stopped him.
The Republican Party is led by the oligarchy of White Old Rich guys. (WORMS)
There aren't enough WORMS to elect anyone, so they pay admen and propagandists like Rush to
promote their views.
"What if you ever made a bazillion dollars, Cletus? You want them Democrats to take it away from your chilluns, leaving them with only millions apiece?"
"You want them niggers to take over? Ain;t they got enuf awready?"
"You want anyone tellin' you you oughtn't drive a dually crewcab pickup truck to take Dixie Lee to Line dance class??
"You want them Ay-Rabs to run their own country and keep Jesus from returning soon, like it says here in the Good Book?"
"If'n you don't want nunna that, Cletus, you'd best vote for JOHN McCAIN"
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Yeah, LBJ, JFK, RFK were all against civil rights. NOT!
When LBJ was in Congress, he voted against a number of civil rights bills.
Who filibustered the civil rights bill in 1964? - Democrats.
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Who filibustered the civil rights bill in 1964? - Democrats.
OUCH
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I thought LBJ was known as the president to intro the most civil rights bills in history.
due to his family background.
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I thought LBJ was known as the president to intro the most civil rights bills in history.
due to his family background.
LBJ killed the 1956 civil rights bill in Congress. He voted against a number of them as well.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_johnson#Civil_rights
Civil rights
President Johnson signs the historic Civil Rights Act of 1964; (Martin Luther King stands just behind and slightly to the right of Johnson).In conjunction with the civil rights movement, Johnson overcame southern resistance and convinced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which outlawed most forms of racial segregation. Johnson signed it into law on July 2, 1964. Legend has it that, as he put down his pen, Johnson told an aide, "We have lost the South for a generation," anticipating a coming backlash from Southern whites against Johnson's Democratic Party.[29] In 1965, he achieved passage of a second civil rights bill, the Voting Rights Act, that outlawed discrimination in voting, thus allowing millions of southern blacks to vote for the first time.
In 1967, Johnson nominated civil rights attorney Thurgood Marshall to be the first African American Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. After the murder of civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo, Johnson went on television to announce the arrest of four Ku Klux Klansmen implicated in her death. He angrily denounced the Klan as a "hooded society of bigots", and warned them to "return to a decent society before it's too late." He turned the themes of Christian redemption to push for civil rights, thereby mobilizing support from churches North and South.[30]
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opps
forgot to add LBJ didn`t give a damn about minorities.
It`s just that civil rights is actually intended to help his main constituants (farmers)
on paper it says it helps minorities but the true reason is another matter.
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Oh, stop that.
There would have been no Civil Rights Bill without LBJ.
The Republicans had, what, 100 years to pass one.
This is as utterly stupid an argument as I have ever seen.
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Oh, stop that.
There would have been no Civil Rights Bill without LBJ.
The Republicans had, what, 100 years to pass one.
This is as utterly stupid an argument as I have ever seen.
"The biggest obstacle to civil rights legislation in 1957 was the bloc of Southern Democrats led by Senator Richard Russell of Georgia. Southern senators had blocked every piece of civil rights legislation proposed since 1875."
http://www.answers.com/topic/civil-rights-act-of-1957?cat=biz-fin
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Oh, stop that.
There would have been no Civil Rights Bill without LBJ.
The Republicans had, what, 100 years to pass one.
This is as utterly stupid an argument as I have ever seen.
"But the three Democrats, as they well knew, were working against the clock. Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and Minority Leader Bill Knowland joined hands in the argument that too much legislation was backed up for the Senate to get bogged down in a long debate on civil rights. (And this was precisely the way that Southerners in the House had planned it as they stalled off a favorable House civil-rights vote?279 to 126?until early last week.)"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,862288,00.html?promoid=googlep
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Oh, stop that.
There would have been no Civil Rights Bill without LBJ.
The Republicans had, what, 100 years to pass one.
This is as utterly stupid an argument as I have ever seen.
"Caro goes into great detail showing all of Johnson's votes with the Southern Senators. They not only blocked civil rights bills, they also saw the passage of favorable legislation for the oil and gas industries. One of Johnson's first committee assignments was to chair a very important nomination hearing. Well, it was important to the oil & gas industry. In 1949, Truman re-nominated liberal Leland Olds to chair the Federal Power Commission, an entity which natural gas producers had pegged as their public enemy number one. In the 1940's the FPC had brought inexpensive power to many states, but industry was not happy with its regulations and price controls. Johnson asked, and received the chairmanship of the subcommittee which was to hold Old's nomination hearing. Caro details over three chapters how Johnson masterminded the entire process. The hearing - years before Borking became a common word - was carefully orchestrated as a negative spectacle alleging that Olds was a Communist. In this era of the House Unamerican Affairs Committee and the Alger Hiss trial, it was easy to convince the Senate to not approve the appointment. The conclusion to this episode was the Olds nomination failed. Johnson not only delighted the Texas oil industry, but more importantly it demonstrated to Senator Richard Russell that he would be a loyal soldier for the Southern cause."
http://texana.texascooking.com/books/lbjmasterofthesenate.htm
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Oh, stop that.
There would have been no Civil Rights Bill without LBJ.
The Republicans had, what, 100 years to pass one.
This is as utterly stupid an argument as I have ever seen.
"Not remembered much in current history textbooks or the media of today, was that in the 1920s Republicans proposed anti-lynching legislation, reflecting back to Civil War times when Democrats, including founders of the KKK, had been involved in this horrific act. The legislation passed the House, an opposition speech was given by a Democrat Congressman from Texas named Lyndon B. Johnson, but was killed by the Democrat-controlled Senate. Finally in 1939 it passed the Senate.
LBJ and the Southern wing of the Democratic Party persisted in supporting anti-black positions. Consider, as LBJ's term neared:
- In 1956, Democrats expressed their opposition to the desegregation decision of Brown v. Board of Education in the "Southern Manifesto." One hundred members of Congress, all Democrats, signed the manifesto.
- In 1957, REPUBLICAN President Eisenhower authored a Civil Rights Bill, hoping to repair the damage done to blacks and their civil rights by Democrats for nearly a century. Passage of the bill was blocked by Senate Democrats.
- In 1959, Eisenhower authored a Voting Rights Bill, again, in an effort to undo the disenfranchisement of blacks by Democrats through poll taxes, literacy tests, and threats of violence by the KKK. And once again, passage of the bill is blocked by Senate Democrats."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/americas_three_worst_president.html
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Yea....but that LBJ.....Couldn't have passed Civil Rights Legislation without him
;)
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I've always thought that a lot of credit was denied to Eisenhower on civil rights. He was the one to federalize the national guard to admit students in support of the Court decision and threatened to lead the attack personally if states decided to rebel. And yet a lot of this goes unknown.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 couldn't have passed without the help of a lot of moderates on both sides of the aisle. Dirksen stands out in my memory for that.