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Re: On the matter of illegal immigrants
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2014, 08:34:22 PM »
A great great great grandfather of mine came to Georgia in 1832 before the famine and bought a plantation on land the Indians had been driven off of for $1.25 per acre.
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I do not think that any immigrant plans to be a BAD citizen.

  This can't be true, some are bad citizens already and they move towards the money just as fast as the honest.

   There might be more honest than dishonest by a large proportion , but it is probably worth a lot of expense and effort to stop even a portion of that portion.

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Re: On the matter of illegal immigrants
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2014, 09:22:50 PM »
Gone with the Wind was a typical tale of plantations in Georgia.
The ancestor's plantation was Long Cane, it was near Americus and his name was Demarius Brady.
The plantation house survived the war, and Brady moved to Gainesville, TX  in 1866.
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Re: On the matter of illegal immigrants
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2014, 04:10:51 AM »
I asked a friend about the plantation reference and it took her abit of time to explain to me. she had a hard time with the fact I have a non-American frame of reference. it just escapes me

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Re: On the matter of illegal immigrants
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2014, 04:55:52 PM »
Cheap Tomatoes - Cheap Labor

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE
OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.

This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet .

Tomatoes and Cheap Labor

This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or an independent
From a California school teacher - - -

"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park , etc.., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones . The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America ... (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" ( whores ) and throwing things , that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care, etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

Americans, We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it . Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about " political correctness " that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil , as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.
CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor." Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an " earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps. He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care. His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school. He requires bilingual teachers and books. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills. If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled , they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense. He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits. Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after Paying their bills and his. The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'

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Re: On the matter of illegal immigrants
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2014, 05:09:17 PM »
I might have started this as another thread with the title of "Your tax dollars at work".  Thanks for sharing it, C
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Re: On the matter of illegal immigrants
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2014, 06:59:41 PM »
NEWS ALERT:

Somewhat reliable investigative sources in California say that
radical Muslims are planning to go on a rampage in the city of Los Angeles.

They plan on killing anyone who is a U.S. citizen.

Police fear the death toll could be as high as 9.

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Re: On the matter of illegal immigrants
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2014, 04:17:18 PM »
To those who embrace some notion that "our doors are open" to any and all immigrants who wish to come here, I whole heartedly agree.....our doors are open -- and should be.  But only to those who follow the rule of law and respect our immigration policies.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle