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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2008, 08:51:54 AM »
I think there is a diffrence between an elete and an eletist.

One is more capable than most , the other holds most in contempt.

And from the rest of XO's post, we know he falls into the latter category.
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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2008, 09:18:24 AM »
elite is an adjective, or a noun that describes a group.

elitist is a noun.
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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2008, 06:51:12 AM »
elite is an adjective, or a noun that describes a group.

elitist is a noun.


SAY
"an elete"

Which distinguishes a member so described.

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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2008, 08:44:54 AM »
SAY
"an elete"

Which distinguishes a member so described.

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Not really, 'elite' is normally used as a collective noun: "Where the elite meet to eat", or "He is a member of the elite".

People I know would not say, "Percival is an elite", or "Montmorency and Percival are elites", but rather "Percival and Montmorency are MEMBERS of the elite."

Just as a classicist is some one who admires the classics in literature, art, and music, an 'elitist' is a person who respects the concept that some people are better prepared for government leadership roles than others, such people being known as the 'elite'. One can consider just who is a member of the elite in several ways: in England, this was done by birth: someone born into the nobility, for example, like Winston Churchill. (Had Winston been an American, his disastrous failure at Gallipoli, based on reading the classics, would have destroyed his career forever: but being a member of the nobility, he was still respected by the Tories ).

  In the US the normal way we regard this is as a meritocracy: someone who has acquired superior leadership abilities through an above-average mental ability and practical experience in relating to the people who elect him or her.

One does not elect someone to fix one's shoes based on popularity or parentage: one chooses a shoe repairman based on how well they repair shoes. Lamentably, we use popularity more than any other factor in choosing our leaders. Of all the candidates who ran for president, Dodd, Kucinich and perhaps Richardson stood out as superior in terms of leadership experience, but no one was better qualified than Ted Kennedy from an overall perspective.

Still, McCain seems better qualified than Huckabee, Romney, Giulani or either Thompson, and Hillary and Obama are certainly adequately qualified to run the country.

I have always felt that a parliamentary system gets more accomplished and accomplishes it better than the system we have, because the legislature tends to choose prime ministers with whom it respects, and this is not true of presidents and Congress.

All countries are ruled by some sort of elite, and will be until a Web-based anarchist and truly democratic system can be invented and introduced, with everyone voting on every issue.
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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2008, 12:46:20 PM »
All countries are ruled by some sort of elite, and will be until a Web-based anarchist and truly democratic system can be invented and introduced, with everyone voting on every issue.



This country is ruled by an elete that must win the approval of its opposite , the masses.

That is what makes the Congress the grandest collection of hoodwinkers on the planet , and why it is such a travail to examine one of them as he trys to become president.

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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2008, 05:57:10 PM »
The elite is not the opposite of the masses, but a part of them.

Not all presidential candidates have come from Congress. State governors have often become presidents.  It is hard to think of any presidential candidate whose performance has differed more from his announced objectives than Juniorbush.

Compassionate conservative.

Uniter, not a divider

Against intervening in foreign conflicts.

For a balanced budget.

And on and on.
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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2008, 01:04:38 AM »
The elite is not the opposite of the masses, but a part of them.

Not all presidential candidates have come from Congress. State governors have often become presidents.  It is hard to think of any presidential candidate whose performance has differed more from his announced objectives than Juniorbush.

Compassionate conservative.

Uniter, not a divider

Against intervening in foreign conflicts.

For a balanced budget.

And on and on.


I am a bit disapointed in his lack of balance on the budget  , but his compassion is terriffic and his efforts as a uniter should be an embarrassment to the Dashle Sort of Democrat that would never meet him half way , leaveing him most of the time at the halfway marker with no hands to shake.

Not that I am complaining, if the Democrats lust for power had not prevented them from ever talking to Bush they might have forged a real moderate coalition ,..., Yeech wouldn't that have been a nightmare!

But when the ones who abuse the name of Bush (every time they say it they spit ) say that he was not a uniter as if that was an accusation to be taken seriously , the proper response is a snicker.

What did you ever do to be a uniter? Or any Democrat in the past decade?

I am dissapointed in the Republicans , who tried to become exactly what they ran against for the Republican Revolution , when the Democrats got a well deserved spanking , but now does anyone want to replace the dissapointing Republicans with the origional disapointment?


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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2008, 10:45:06 AM »
Juniorbush refused to talk to the Democrats once they got a majority. Prior to this, they cooperated o the tax cuts and the education bills.

You do not know what the Hell you are talking about.

Juniorbush. The Worst President. Ever.
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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2008, 12:52:55 PM »
elite is an adjective, or a noun that describes a group.

elitist is a noun.


One of the meanings of "an elete" is a termite with a sex life.

Is there no proper singular for elete?

Is it really impossible for me to say what I mean?

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Re: The way McCain can win this thing.
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2008, 07:40:09 PM »
President George Bush got more votes in the 2004 election than any presidential candidate in US History.

Yeah, and he is the very, very WORST president, ever.

I have never voted for George HW Bush or any of his malignant spawn, and never will. That is because I am SMARTER than the fools who did.

Supreme Court Fascists: Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas
Even they do not agree with Juniorbush on Guantanamo, though.

Scalia's vaunted intelligence-wink wink nudge nudge-does nothing but sicken me. Roberts is so committed to stare decisis that I find him sexy. Alito is a pain, but can't carry a following so he is no worry. Thomas as well.

Try reading some recent Supreme Court decisions-especially Carhart and Medellin. Your "fascists" upheld Roe v Wade with a grace and knowledge that borders on beautiful.