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The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« on: July 05, 2010, 08:31:34 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/nasa-chief-frontier-better-relations-muslims/


NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his "foremost" mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.

Though international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA's orbit, Bolden said in an interview with Al Jazeera that strengthening those ties was among the top tasks President Obama assigned him. He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel.

"When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," Bolden said in the interview.

The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo -- in his interview with Al Jazeera, he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.

"It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said. He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.

However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission -- in a distinctly non-diplomatic role.

"Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.

He said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.

Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency's Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.


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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2010, 11:35:10 PM »
Given the judgement of who appointed this fella, is this any surprise??       ::)
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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 11:42:05 PM »
Given the judgement of who appointed this fella, is this any surprise??       ::)

looks like racial preference to me. Clearly the guy isn't the brightest tool in the shed so why appoint him other than to add another black-skinned person to the payroll, so as to keep the brothers happy.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 11:55:19 PM »
uhm

it might be because one astronaunt turned muslim after his time in space. it`s a very well know story in the muslim community.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 12:21:10 AM »
uhm

it might be because one astronaunt turned muslim after his time in space. it`s a very well know story in the muslim community.

It's called NASA not MASA.

NASA should not promote Lesbians, Christians, Jews, Chinese, Man Made Global Warming, or any of that crap. They are a space organization not a social experiment. They should be headed up by a qualified person not somebody's buddy.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 12:44:55 AM »
can i throw up on him this numbnuts at NASA?
i actually did that once
back in high school...some guy was being an idiot/prick/bully to some nice people
he kept it up all evening....
so when i had the chance and saw him sitting on the couch
I ventured over behind the couch....stuck my finger down my throat & puked all over the back of his head & torso
i was like "sorry dude"....boy that pizza looked good all over that prick!  ;)
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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 12:46:56 AM »
can i throw up on him this numbnuts at NASA?
i actually did that once
back in high school...some guy was being an idiot/prick/bully to some nice people
he kept it up all evening....
so when i had the chance and saw him sitting on the couch
I ventured over behind the couch....stuck my finger down my throat & puked all over the back of his head & torso
i was like "sorry dude"....boy that pizza looked good all over that prick!  ;)

wow that's awesome

would you mind doing that on XO?

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 09:07:17 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/nasa-official-walks-claim-muslim-outreach-foremost-mission/

The former head of NASA on Tuesday described as "deeply flawed" the idea that the space exploration
agency's priority should be outreach to Muslim countries, after current Administrator Charles Bolden made that assertion in an interview last month.

"NASA ... represents the best of America. Its purpose is not to inspire Muslims or any other cultural entity," Michael Griffin, who served as NASA administrator during the latter half of the Bush administration, told FoxNews.com.

Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering."

Officials from the White House and NASA on Tuesday stood by Bolden's statement that part of his mission is to improve relations with Muslim countries -- though NASA backed off the claim that such international diplomacy is Bolden's "foremost" responsibility.

Griffin said Tuesday that collaboration with other countries, including Muslim nations, is welcome and should be encouraged -- but that it would be a mistake to prioritize that over NASA's "fundamental mission" of space exploration.

"If by doing great things, people are inspired, well then that's wonderful," Griffin said. "If you get it in the wrong order ... it becomes an empty shell."

Griffin added: "That is exactly what is in danger of happening."

He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said.

The former administrator stressed that any criticism should be directed at Obama, not Bolden, since NASA merely carries out policy.

The White House stood by Bolden on Tuesday. Spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a written statement to FoxNews.com that Obama "wants NASA to engage with the world's best scientists and engineers as we work together to push the boundaries of exploration.

"Meeting that mandate requires NASA to partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries. The space race began as a global competition, but, today, it is a global collaboration," he said.

Bob Jacobs, NASA's assistant administrator for public affairs, echoed that point. However, he said that Bolden was speaking of priorities when it came to "outreach" and not about NASA's primary missions of "science, aeronautics and space exploration." He said the "core mission" is exploration and that it was unfortunate Bolden's comments are now being viewed through a "partisan prism."

Though the Al Jazeera interview drew widespread attention, it wasn't the first time Bolden made the assertion.

A Feb. 16 blog in the Orlando Sentinel reported that Bolden discussed the outreach during a lecture to engineering students. As he did in the interview with Al Jazeera last month, Bolden was quoted then saying Obama told him to "find ways to reach out to dominantly Muslim countries."

He reportedly talked about the importance of helping countries establish space programs and pointed to the largest Muslim country in the world, Indonesia, as a possible partner.

"We really like Indonesia because the State Department, the Department of Education (and) other agencies in the U.S. are reaching out to Indonesia as the largest Muslim nation in the world," he said.

Bolden did not describe such outreach as his prime mission at the time.

The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo, and in the interview with Al Jazeera he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.

"It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said.

He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.

However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission. "Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.

He also said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.

Griffin disputed this point. He said the U.S. can still make those strides without international aid if it wishes, and that, "To the extent that we wish to go to Mars, we can go to Mars."

Griffin said the U.S. should in fact seek international cooperation for those missions, but that it would be "clearly false" to suggest the U.S. needs that cooperation.

Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency's Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 09:25:44 PM »
They used to experiment to make Aircraft better and safer .


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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 09:31:07 PM »
They used to experiment to make Aircraft better and safer .



I guess NASA will help then feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering with regards to experimenting with aircraft. Yes they turned some jets into missiles and brave Muslim pilots flew them into the WTC & Pentagon on 9/11. How refreshing!

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 09:55:00 PM »
maybe it`s a ploy to get researchers here?. these folks are no slouch in the brains dept. remember 50 years ago they used to be the major players on the planet. iran is pretty damn current.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010, 09:59:24 PM »
maybe it`s a ploy to get researchers here?. these folks are no slouch in the brains dept. remember 50 years ago they used to be the major players on the planet. iran is pretty damn current.

perfect. then they can fly fully fueled space shuttles and rockets into us cities and kill tens of thousands of people. right on, that Obama sure knows how to nurture peoples self confidence with his liberal social programs.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010, 10:02:08 PM »
Maybe they shouldn't be hopeless .

Beoing desprate and hopeless causes desprate hopeless actions.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 10:25:30 PM »
Maybe they shouldn't be hopeless .

Beoing desprate and hopeless causes desprate hopeless actions.


If they are that hopeless & desperate maybe they need to change their religion to one that is loving, optimistic, hopeful & comforting or at least change their attitude through positive thinking. Maybe while facing east, praying to Allah, they should say a few Positive Affirmations, like: love they neighbor, peace, good will to man, and other nice things. Stop stoning people, end repressing women and genital mutilation. Get a little dressier with the clothing, shave and remove facial hair, both men and women. Change hair styles, trim the fingernails, maybe even wear some polyester over camel hair. Change it up a bit. Eat pizza or Chinese over that same old hummus and lentil food. Eat a big juicy steak over the lamb. Let the hair down, have a few vodka martinis. Here's a good one, support a charity or two. Go out and mix with other races and religions instead of always hanging out with the same people, same beliefs and same same same. These few simple suggestion may be all they need to get out of that rut the are in.

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Re: The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 04:34:34 AM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle