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Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« on: July 20, 2011, 06:12:47 PM »
Today, Contessa "educated" a conservative Representative that without the bailout, the country would be in "a depression." Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) said he disagreed which prompted the MSNBC host to ask him if he had a degree in economics.

"Yes ma'am, I do. Highest honors," Rep. Brooks responded.

According to his Congressional page: "Mo graduated from Duke University in three years with a double major in political science and economics, with highest honors in economics. In 1978, he graduated from the University of Alabama Law School."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/20/msnbc_to_gop_congressman_do_you_have_a_degree_in_economics.html

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 07:00:11 PM »
Nonetheless, if the debt ceiling is not raised, the whole country will suffer, even dipshit teabaggers from Alabama.
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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 07:32:37 PM »
the MSNBC host to ask him if he had a degree in economics. "Yes ma'am, I do. Highest honors," Rep. Brooks responded.

That was greatness!
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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 08:08:42 PM »
Nonetheless, if the debt ceiling is not raised, the whole country will suffer, even dipshit teabaggers from Alabama.

Actually you are 100% wrong and just perpetuating the lie Obama is telling.

With projected revenues for August of $200 billion that pays all the bills and leaves about $36 billion in change. So once again you are a lying sack of shit just like your president.

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 08:23:13 PM »
http://www.redstate.com/deanclancy/2011/07/18/seven-reasons-why-august-2-isnt-the-end-of-the-world/

Seven Reasons Why August 2 Isn’t the End of the World

Washington is currently borrowing about 43 cents out of every dollar it spends, and is close to maxing out its credit limit.

Current law says Uncle Sam cannot borrow more than $14.3 trillion. A few months back, the Obama Administration demanded that Congress increase the national credit line by $2.5 trillion by May 16, or else, it warned, the United States would default on its debts, causing an “economic Armageddon.”  ($2.5 trillion is just enough to aver the need for another debt hike until after the 2012 election.)

When May 16 came and went, and nothing happened, the Obama team set a new “Armageddon” date: August 2.

Unfortunately, a lot of folks in Washington and Wall Street – including some who should know better — seem to be taking this new deadline at face value.  While it’s true that, at some point, the government will hit the ceiling and have to reduce spending by about 40 percent, exactly when that day will arrive, nobody knows for sure.  And don’t believe anyone who tells you he does know.  “No man knows the day or the hour.”

Maxed Out Day could be August 2. It could be August 22.  Or it could be in September.   The exact date really depends on whether the President is willing to tap certain reserves available to him, or decides to force a political crisis.

I cannot tell you when Maxed Out Day will be.  But I can – and will — prove to you that August 2 doesn’t have to be it. Before I do so, here are three key numbers to remember:

1) We are projected to take in between $170 billion and $200 billion in August, in revenues.

2) We will likely spend about $300 billion in August.

3) Therefore, we face a gap of somewhere between $100 billion and $130 billion.

So what will happen, come the August 2 deadline?

    The U.S. will still be able to pay its creditors (i.e., it won’t default).  There’s no reason why the government needs to stop paying its creditors.  Ever.  Debt service payments (interest on the national debt) will only cost $30 billion in August.  As I’ve noted, we will take in $170-200 billion.
    Social Security checks will still go out. On July 12, President Obama suggested that, come August 2, he might not be able to send out the 50 million Social Security checks slated to go out in August. But since those checks only cost $50 billion, compared to $170-200 billion coming in, there will obviously be sufficient funds to mail them.
    Medicare and Medicaid payments will go out as usual. Experts predict we’ll owe about $50 billion to doctors and hospitals. Well, with $170-200 billion coming in, granny will get her health care, just like always.
    Veterans and active-duty military personnel will get paid. Paying our veterans will cost about $3 billion.  Ditto our soldiers in uniform.  That $6 billion is chump change by DC standards.

So that’s a total bill of $136 billion, easily covered by the $170-200 billion we’ll take in.  Of course, we won’t be able to afford everything the government currently spends on.  The Departments of HUD, Transportation, Commerce, Energy, and Education, for example, may have to take a pause while Congress works out a deal with the President.  But is that really “the end of the world”?

Earlier, I mentioned the reserve funds the President can tap.  As the Senate Finance Committee Republican staff helpfully point out:

5. The Treasury Department has $5 billion sitting idle in an account at the Federal Reserve. It can tap this account any time.

6. Treasury has close to $100 billion in mortgage-backed securities it can sell.  It bought these securities during the financial crisis to bail out housing markets.  Just last month, it sold $10.6 billion worth.

Finally, there’s a seventh reason why August 2 needn’t be anything more than another pleasant summer day in America.

7. Congress can pass the Cut Cap Balance Act (H.R.2560). This bill would give President Obama his $2.5 trillion debt increase — in exchange for three things: 1) $111 billion in cuts this coming year, 2) tight spending caps for the coming decade, and 3) congressional approval of a strong Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution.  By strong, I mean one that makes it much harder for Congress to spend more than a fixed share of the economy, raise taxes, or add to the debt.

The Cut Cap Balance Act – which the House is slated to vote on today — would make this the last debt ceiling hike, ever.  Unfortunately, President Obama has threatened to veto it.  If he does, whose fault will it be when Maxed Out Day really does arrive?

Dean Clancy is FreedomWorks’ Legislative Counsel and Vice President, Health Care Policy.

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 12:07:19 AM »
A balanced budget amendment is not going to pass Congress or the states. This country been debt free for exactly ONE YEAR, and it was done by Andrew Jackson throwing the seven Civilized Tribes off their land, marching them off to Oklahoma and selling their land.

In 1837, it was all over, as Capitalism did what it is predictably what it always does and plunging the country into a Depression.

This whole balanced budget amendment is just silly bagger crap.
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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 12:15:37 AM »
A balanced budget amendment is not going to pass Congress or the states. This country been debt free for exactly ONE YEAR, and it was done by Andrew Jackson throwing the seven Civilized Tribes off their land, marching them off to Oklahoma and selling their land.

In 1837, it was all over, as Capitalism did what it is predictably what it always does and plunging the country into a Depression.

This whole balanced budget amendment is just silly bagger crap.

I believe 49 state constitutions require a balanced budget, i fail to see why the several states would have a problem with the fed having to live within its means.
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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 01:45:43 AM »
Potholes!!!

Sorry I think in terms of what happens locally.s.f. Has made so many funding diversions that potholes can never get funding. It got so bad the city tried to get a loan that exclusively funds potholes. But because none of the money is allowed to fund other projects the loan request got rejected.

Meaning more lawsuits will come .

Raising the debt ceiling without a promise that money does not fund special interest will only make things worst. Am I seeing this wrong?

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2011, 01:58:34 AM »
It doesn't matter if the ceiling Gets raised the credit SHOULD get trashed.

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 10:52:21 AM »
A balanced budget amendment is not going to pass Congress or the states. This country been debt free for exactly ONE YEAR, and it was done by Andrew Jackson throwing the seven Civilized Tribes off their land, marching them off to Oklahoma and selling their land.

In 1837, it was all over, as Capitalism did what it is predictably what it always does and plunging the country into a Depression.

This whole balanced budget amendment is just silly bagger crap.

I believe 49 state constitutions require a balaced budget, i fail to see why the several states with the fed having to live within its means.

Every household in America requires a balanced budget. The ones that don't have a balanced budget and live on credit are in deep dodo.

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2011, 12:33:17 PM »
Raising the debt ceiling without a promise that money does not fund special interest will only make things worst. Am I seeing this wrong?
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Yes. The debt ceiling has been raised over and over and over again. "Special interests" only mean some institution or person the person using the term disagrees with. They need to pass the debt ceiling NOW, because that will cause a surge in the Stock Market, which will bring in MORE money. Not passing it means that there will be a drop in the Market and a rise in interest paid by every borrower for everything.

If the US defaults on its debts, then interest rates go up, and we will all have to pay more for everything, and get nothing in return.

A government is not like a household budget. Comparisons are both simplistic and inaccurate.

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2011, 04:03:26 PM »
A government is not like a household budget. Comparisons are both simplistic and inaccurate.


Good then I guess raising the debt ceiling, in your view, isn't needed after all. Finally we agree on something.

Oh and why don't you go tell that to the Greeks!

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2011, 04:25:20 PM »
Raising the debt ceiling is clearly needed now, since there is insufficient revenue to pay the bills.

It is, however, simplistic and inaccurate to compare a national budget of the US  with a family income.

This is not Greece. Greece has no control over the number of Euros in circulation. Greece has around 11 million. The US has over 300 million. Greece has virtually no natural resources, other than scenery. Wealthy Greeks have most of the income, and are notorious tax dodgers.

Why are the words "I guess" always followed with really stupid statements online?

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2011, 04:47:56 PM »
Raising the debt ceiling is clearly needed now, since there is insufficient revenue to pay the bills.

It is, however, simplistic and inaccurate to compare a national budget of the US  with a family income.

This is not Greece. Greece has no control over the number of Euros in circulation. Greece has around 11 million. The US has over 300 million. Greece has virtually no natural resources, other than scenery. Wealthy Greeks have most of the income, and are notorious tax dodgers.

Why are the words "I guess" always followed with really stupid statements online?

I guess you are smarter than the rest of us...

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Re: Press Babe Gets Handed Her Ass
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2011, 12:07:41 AM »
Raising the debt ceiling is clearly needed now, since there is insufficient revenue to pay the bills.

It is, however, simplistic and inaccurate to compare a national budget of the US  with a family income.

This is not Greece. Greece has no control over the number of Euros in circulation. Greece has around 11 million. The US has over 300 million. Greece has virtually no natural resources, other than scenery. Wealthy Greeks have most of the income, and are notorious tax dodgers.

Why are the words "I guess" always followed with really stupid statements online?

Why is it such a big deal now? For example, clearly it didn't bother you when Obama, as a Senator, voted against raising the debt limit, yet you voted for Obama. It seems to me if you are so stuck on it being raised and it's such a huge national crises if it's not raised then you surely wouldn't vote for a presidential candidate that did not support it back when Bush was president. I'm just saying!!