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The Weiner's Seat
« on: September 13, 2011, 08:17:20 PM »

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 04:47:39 AM »
No longer, looks like

............The defeat came as Republicans trounced Democrats in another special House election Tuesday, in northern Nevada, where Republican Mark Amodei led Democrat Kate Marshall, 56 percent to 39 percent almost from the start.

In both contests, the GOP pulled ahead by linking the Democratic candidate to Obama and his handling of the economy. Both Republican contenders urged voters to “send a message” to the president
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I'm predicting Obama's (save my) JOBS Act is going to backfire big time.  It's purely a piece of legislative crap that is never going to, or even intended to, pass the House, and is merely a tool to try and turn the electorate the other way, and claim the GOP is causing the country to falter, by not passing HIS more big Government garbage, while throwing bones to everyone of his core constituencies, such as the unions.  Ignoring of course, the 12-13 pieces of legislation the House did pass, to try and spur job growth, that Mr Reid decided that the Senate, run by the Democrats, had no need to even bring it up for a vote.
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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 09:36:33 AM »
it's hard to believe the Weeny seat went Republican!

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 11:45:51 AM »
it's hard to believe the Weeny seat went Republican!

Why is that? Just like at how Jews have been treated by the Messiah? Plus, look at how HOPELESS being a Democrat is these days...Republicans are the only ones with any good ideas!

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 01:12:15 PM »


this guys nose alone should have got him elected. Obama really botched this one.

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 01:16:12 PM »
So, you are blaming Obama for some White guy's nose now?
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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 01:20:43 PM »
So, you are blaming Obama for some White guy's nose now?

Didn't you hear, Bush botched the nose job? But Obama gets the credit for it now because he's been president for almost 3 years.

Hey how did you like Obama's Jobs Plan? Really innovative wasn't it? Certainly well worth the 3 year wait! NOT!

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 04:03:41 PM »
Special Election Aftermath: Troubling Tea Leaves for Democrats

Now that the dust has settled after Tuesday night's astonishing GOP sweep of two special Congressional elections, several trends have emerged that should disturb national Democrats.  In the race that earned a huge amount of media attention, Democrats learned that President Obama's historically hostile posture toward Israel has registered with, and angered, many Jewish voters.  The Examiner's Phil Klein explains:

As with any election, there was no doubt many factors contributing to this result, such as the weak economy. But a survey by the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling taken days before the final votes were cast suggested that Obama's belligerent stance toward America's traditional ally of Israel played an important role.  The PPP poll found that a 37 percent plurality of voters described Israel as "very important" in deciding their votes. Among those voters, Turner was leading 71 percent to 22 percent, and he was winning the Jewish vote by a 56 percent to 39 percent margin.

No doubt, many Jewish voters in the 9th district, which spans across parts of Brooklyn and Queens, are Orthodox, and thus relatively politically conservative compared with the broader, more secular, Jewish population.  But that hasn't stopped Democrats from consistently winning the district in the past. The intensity of the anger toward Obama's Israel policies demonstrated in Tuesday's results should be a wake up call for the White House.



Sean Trende at RealClearPolitics also offers a detailed statistical analysis of Democrats' mounting struggles with white working class voters, as evidenced by the results in NY-09.  No worries, though.  DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz isn't overly concerned:

Democratic party leaders insisted the loss wasn’t a harbinger of things to come. “It’s a very difficult district for Democrats,” said Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, noting its Democratic margins there tend to be the second lowest of all the districts in New York City.


New York's Ninth Congressional District has been a very difficult district for Democrats...to lose, which they hadn't done since the early 1920's, prior to this week.  In 2000, Al Gore barely squeaked past George W. Bush in the district by 37 percentage points.  Barack Obama won it by double digits in 2008.  But by all means, Debbie, please keep deluding yourself into thinking all of this has nothing to do with your party's failed policies.  No course corrections necessary.  Carry on.

As I wrote on Tuesday, despite all the hype in New York City, the race with the greater 2012 implications was out west in NV-02.  Republican Mark Amodei won that contest in a massive blowout over a well-funded, twice-elected statewide office holder, and he did so by dominating Washoe County.  Why should you care?  Politico provides the context:

When Democrats lost Tuesday’s Nevada special election, they didn’t just lose a long-shot House race. They also got creamed in one of the most crucial swing counties in the nation.  Washoe County, the Northern Nevada county that contains Reno, is the No. 1 bellwether in a top Western swing state.  It was crucial to Harry Reid’s 2010 reelection, to Barack Obama’s 2008 election and to the countless governors, senators and presidents who have competed in the Silver State before them. And on Tuesday, Republican Mark Amodei won it by 10 points.  It is almost universally true that as goes Washoe, so goes Nevada – and as goes Nevada, so goes the nation

The state has voted for the winner of every presidential race but one since 1912, giving it a stronger claim to bellwether status than Missouri.



Conservatives exulted over both special election triumphs this week -- after all, beating Democrats anywhere, especially in unexpected places, is great fun.  But what should please conservatives even more is that the primary underlying condition that set the stage for both victories could augur much more political pain for Democrats in the coming election cycle.  That condition?  Deep and broad disillusionment with the President of the United States:

President Barack Obama's disapproval rating has reached a new high of 55% while the number of Americans who think he is a strong leader has dropped to a new low, 48%, according to a CNN/ORC poll released Tuesday.  Only 39% approve of how he is handling unemployment, and just 36% approve of the way he is handling the economy, not surprising when more than eight in 10 think the economy is in poor shape.

It's little wonder, therefore, that the president's unserious jobs plan push is either falling flat or on deaf ears.
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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 05:51:27 PM »
I can't help but think that since The Wiener's seat flipped, that New York will be in play next year at the presidential level as well. I had a feeling this was the case when Obama or somebody on his team made a fake offer to Cuomo recently to be on his ticket and he said, "hell no."

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 06:21:07 PM »
I am an optimist, and while I relish the notion of both CA and NY being "in play" come 2012, I believe there are enough ignorant Democrats & liberals, that make up a vast majority of each's state, who will be made to be scared snotless, at the notion of "how much worse it would be, if a Republican were running things". 

So, that said, and predicting that both NY & CA will swing Obama come 2012, I think enough of the rest of the country has seen just how bad this President has been, and the downward debt death spiral he's taking us down in.  There's only just so many commercials the left can play touting as Obama's biggest success as that of Bin Laden's capture and death, by our Navy Seals, and his "go ahead" order
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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 06:27:09 PM »
I am an optimist, and while I relish the notion of both CA and NY being "in play" come 2012, I believe there are enough ignorant Democrats & liberals, that make up a vast majority of each's state, who will be made to be scared snotless, at the notion of "how much worse it would be, if a Republican were running things". 

So, that said, and predicting that both NY & CA will swing Obama come 2012, I think enough of the rest of the country has seen just how bad this President has been, and the downward debt death spiral he's taking us down in.  There's only just so many commercials the left can play touting as Obama's biggest success as that of Bin Laden's capture and death, by our Navy Seals, and his "go ahead" order

One should not lose sight of the many people that profit from the Democrat Party agenda. There is an entire industry and groups of people that live off of the redistributed wealth that Democrats are so famous for hijacking away from hard working victims.

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 08:02:38 PM »
Kind of echoing an earlier point I made about a "method to their madness".  Get a majority of folks either beholden to, or employed by the Government, and you have a perpetuating Big Government machine, that eats up more and more freedom & free enterprise, & spitting out more and more of what we're seeing, not just with this President's actions, but thru-out the globe that have adopted a similar mad methodology, in the name of cradle <--> grave security
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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 08:11:04 PM »
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I believe there are enough ignorant Democrats & liberals, that make up a vast majority of each's state, who will be made to be scared snotless, at the notion of "how much worse it would be, if a Republican were running things". 


ha ha well said.

I don't know where they are busing in these people to stand behind Obama at these campaign speeches that he has been making recently but it is truly scary. They look like zombies.  I'm not even sure XO is dumb enough to openly support Obama anymore. Where is he, anyway?

New York has elected Republican governors before. You are probably right but Obama's erosion with Jewish voters is so great that it would be terrific to see him at least have to spend money defending New York, even if he ultimately ends up winning 49% to 48.

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Re: The Weiner's Seat
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 08:45:05 PM »
As it relates to the question of "where are they?", I can't imagine many hard core liberals that can actively defend this fella right now.  And what defense you'll see will include squat achievement the Chosen has accomplished and 99.9%:
- It's Bush's fault
- He inherited all of this
- Republicans are blocking everything he's trying to do
- Bachman's a moron, Perry's a religious fanatic, and Romney's too pretty
- and its Bush's fault 
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 08:50:24 PM »
As it relates to the question of "where are they?", I can't imagine many hard core liberals that can actively defend this fella right now.  And what defense you'll see will include squat achievement the Chosen has accomplished and 99.9%:
- It's Bush's fault
- He inherited all of this
- Republicans are blocking everything he's trying to do
- Bachman's a moron, Perry's a religious fanatic, and Romney's too pretty
- and its Bush's fault

think about, what do they have? The only thing they have is to play dirty, bring in imposters and infiltrators to Tea Party events and Republican candidate rally's to try and gen up their side. That is all they have. They can't run on Obama's record or the great economy or employment stats because they are all losers for Obama. Dirty play is all they have.