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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 01:00:35 PM »
Cain is not likeable. he is a preachy blowhard.

The last time the GOP VP candidate was a ditzy woman token.
Will the next one be a prettyboy Cuban token or a blowhard Black token?

I would put 3 to one odds against either.
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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 01:42:08 PM »
Cain is not likeable. he is a preachy blowhard.

The last time the GOP VP candidate was a ditzy woman token.
Will the next one be a prettyboy Cuban token or a blowhard Black token?

I would put 3 to one odds against either.

your one vote is nothing more than 1 so blow it our your ass

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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 04:13:03 PM »
Cain won't be nominated. Watch and see. And I have no votes in any republican primary, although perhaps i should reregister.
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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 04:14:20 PM »
Cain won't be nominated. Watch and see. And I have no votes in any republican primary, although perhaps i should reregister.

why don't you register as an ass-hole?

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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 06:17:49 PM »
They clearly have the ability to do compound interest. That is not the problem.

The problem with the government can be mostly attributed to two things:
(1) our government is based on checks and balances, and because of this, we often have a divided government that fights with itself and frequently is stymied because of this.

(2) The people and corporations love to get government benefits, but no one likes to pay extra money for added benefits.

Our governmental system is defective. If we had a parliamentary system like Canada or Australia, many of the difficulties would disappear, as the leader and the principle legislative coalition would be of a common mind. Compromise would be encouraged, instead of the opposite, which is what we have now.

Electing a political neophyte like Cain will not solve any problems. The old fool would have more problems than Jimmy Carter, and from the looks of him, he'd just get on the news and rant about it. After two or three months, even the morons would have realize what a monumental mistake it had been to elect him.

But that will not happen, because he's not getting the nomination. The Oligarchy will not approve of him, and he will fall by the wayside, a la Ross Perot.


  The Government is not accidentally divided, you may understand it as a defect but the writers of the constitution hobbled the government on a purpose.

     Our own government is the most likly villian to take our libertys from us, it is good that the people can quite easily frustrate the government.

      It is true , I think you are right that the people like largesse but there are a lot of people who understand that the government has to take from the people before it is able to give to the people. Some politicians engauge in class warfare to divide the people and benifit from the greater resorces of the rich or the greater vote of the poor to middle class. This doesn't work well on those mature enough to overcome jelosy and fear.

    Being for jobs and against business is like being pro egg and anti chicken, the class that hires and the class that works are interdependant and membership in neither is exclusive to the other.

     The class that rules without risk is the government , the government makes a big fuss about the few jobs that the government can create, but each one of these is so inneficiently funded via taxes that it can be considered to be at the cost of three or four jobs that the same money would have created if that money had been left in private circulation.

      The class that need not count the cost should not have power without limits and balences, the American people seem to like  divided government in times of peace but not tolerate division in time of crisis, I consider this to be proper nad well balenced.

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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2011, 01:00:04 PM »
I agree, our government was designed to be defective. But that does not make it better. At the present time, it is making it much worse.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2011, 01:35:11 PM »
I agree, our government was designed to be defective. But that does not make it better. At the present time, it is making it much worse.

the next election is going to fix all that. and with a R president and R controlled Congress we won't waste time fixing things. Unlike the Dems that had a golden opportunity laste year and the prior year too.

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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2011, 02:05:18 PM »
It will fix nothing. We will still have a government that is inefficient. It is designed to be inefficient. Electing a bunch of shills for the Oligarchy will hardly improve anything, except perhaps for the Oligarchy.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2011, 11:20:38 PM »
http://blog.slickedit.com/2008/08/defect-or-feature-request/


   Why call it a defect ?

    It is a feature , an important feature, it is a weakness in the governance designed in such that the government has a hard time becoming strong against the people.

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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2011, 01:45:55 PM »
In this case, the government is stubbornly resisting acting in the best interests of the people. The people need jobs. Congress refuses to do anything. In this case, it is a defect.

Civilization has changed immeasurably since the 1790's. It does not take two weeks to get from one end of the country to Washington. The country is not a small collection of yeoman farmers taming the wilderness and several dozen small cities and towns along the coast. We can now communicate with out Congresspeople and leaders instantly via e-mail.

The Constitution that once made sense no longer seems to work as well as it could.
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2011, 04:28:18 PM »
  There is not much potential for the government to create jobs.

    The greatest stimulus package of all history has just been delivered as an experiment in progress.

     Jobs were created , but the funding spent per new job was exorbitant, in the order of a million dollars each one with little hope that the job would last long.

      Having more government run the economy better is a concept akin to having more fleas run the dog better.

       Government is usefull for several purposes, but there are some things that government is not the best answer of.

       Government could pick your mate , might do an adequate job, but would this be better than your own due diligence on that purpose?

      The Government can provide for your education , but I haven't seen proof that it is the only or best source.

        The government can give you a career and an employer and/or match you with work for you, better than you and your prospective employer can find each other with no government ? Really?

       The governments interference is good for when the people need the controll, but the controll itself is destructive when the people do not need it.

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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2011, 05:06:36 PM »
  There is not much potential for the government to create jobs.

    The greatest stimulus package of all history has just been delivered as an experiment in progress.

     Jobs were created , but the funding spent per new job was exorbitant, in the order of a million dollars each one with little hope that the job would last long.

      Having more government run the economy better is a concept akin to having more fleas run the dog better.

       Government is usefull for several purposes, but there are some things that government is not the best answer of.

       Government could pick your mate , might do an adequate job, but would this be better than your own due diligence on that purpose?

      The Government can provide for your education , but I haven't seen proof that it is the only or best source.

        The government can give you a career and an employer and/or match you with work for you, better than you and your prospective employer can find each other with no government ? Really?

       The governments interference is good for when the people need the controll, but the controll itself is destructive when the people do not need it.

if a job is about creating something, even a profit for a company, then the government can only take note make.

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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2011, 05:45:13 PM »
We need some public works projects to repair the infrastructure.
If not for the stimulus, the unemployment rate would be much worse.

The Republicans have nothing to offer other than to cut taxes, which is hardly going to adequately end the recession.

Government provided education should not be the only available, but it being available to all is an absolute necessity. It does not have to be the best to be necessary or useful. A good student who can use the Internet, a computer and a library can probably get an excellent education at any university. But without the university, the likelihood of this occurring is greatly diminished.
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Re: Cain on Greta tonight, catch it if you can
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2011, 07:33:52 PM »
We need some public works projects to repair the infrastructure.
If not for the stimulus, the unemployment rate would be much worse.

The Republicans have nothing to offer other than to cut taxes, which is hardly going to adequately end the recession.

Government provided education should not be the only available, but it being available to all is an absolute necessity. It does not have to be the best to be necessary or useful. A good student who can use the Internet, a computer and a library can probably get an excellent education at any university. But without the university, the likelihood of this occurring is greatly diminished.

It is totally true that tax cuts are not enough to end the recession , they might help a bit but the recession will not be over untill small business, middle sized business and big business(in that order) are hireing workers.

Keep this in mind when you start thinking that stimulous helps, what exactly gets helped? Employment is not up not even a little, and there has never been a bigger stimulus passed into law anywere. What reason is there to think that stimulus is helpfull in the least ?

  Getting a horse to run its fastest is mostly a matter chooseing a really well formed horse and getting him to behave naturally with the least weight to carry and the least restrictive harness possible. Business in America is a famous strong horse but it is wearing government forged hobbles and restrictions and is carrying a really fat jocky, does government really need to be 20% or more of the total economy? What if a few percent now devoted to government guidence were repurposed to growth and development? I am imaginining a 400Lb jocky blaming a poor run on the stoubornness of his horse, will our economic collapse really be blamed on not having enough government?

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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 01:34:16 PM »
A LACK of proper regulations got us into this mess. I hardly think that removing regulations at the demand of business only because business does not like them would be a disaster.
We may have the WRONG regulations in some cases, but there are few new regualtions, and those that there are did not cause a slump in the economy.

The Republicans are clueless about how to provide jobs for people. They do know how to help the top 1% to rip off an even bigger share of the wealth than they now have. The Teabaggers know that they are against everything and have no solutions to anything. They are simply useful idiots for the Oligarchy, that paid a lot to organize them.

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