Question

[BT]

Just for clarification are you saying the Owwies are gusanos for refusing to accept the cards dealt to them and doing something about it? Since the majority of their complaint is that they aren't getting their fair share of the pie, doesn't that make them as greedy as any cuban refugee who risked life and limb on the promise of a better life? And if you aren't saying that, why aren't you?

[Plane]

<<You think that Cuba had the best government on Earth and you think that the USA had one near the other end of the scale.>>

Only half true.  I love the Cuban government and I love Fidel, but I think the US government has been hijacked.  If the people can get it back from Wall Street and the corporations, it won't be the worst by a long shot.  It's one of the worst now but it doesn't have to remain so.

Well thanks , frankly I never was enamored of Obama so I feel less let down than you do.

<<You are in complete disagreement with 99% of the people who ever had the choice of which to move to.>>

That is just totally ridiculous.  The vast majority of the Cuban people choose to remain in Cuba and build socialism there.  The gusanos who leave for the U.S. are just greed-driven swine but their story of danger on the high seas is a dramatic one and catches a lot of MSM attention.

It isn't rediculous the numnber who needed to leave badly enough to accept the rediculous risk is huge, if evolution is the truth then Cuba must be the home of the mildest and tamest human beings on the planet , because everyone who has the slightest problem with accepting orders and swallowing lies  has swum away like a drove of Lemmings. Or of course, having trhe smallest evidence of courage has been shot.

<<I know you think that money alone explains this , this is just another symnptom of your disgust with the common human being.>>

Well, thanks for explaining to me how I think, but I believe that my assessment of those gusano scumbags is pretty much on the money, and your inability to appreciate the financial side of their decision is just another symptom of your naivete and susceptibility to the nonstop propaganda brainwashing bullshit of your government and your corporate-owned MSM.

    If you understood the nature of money a little better , you would be offended at a government claiming the right to direct every bit of it.

[Plane]

  Obama would still have the votes of those of his black supporters who voted for him only for the colour of his skin; .....................

Have you an opinion or estimate for the magnitude of this faction?

[Michael Tee]

<<Just for clarification are you saying the Owwies are gusanos for refusing to accept the cards dealt to them and doing something about it?>>

ROTFLMFAO.  What you've done here is create your own definition of both the gusanos and the Occupy! people by totally misrepresenting both and then asking me if I can now equate one with the other.  Hilarious, but don't think I don't appreciate the inventiveness of it.

Occupy! wants to build socialism in America and the non-gusanos (the stay-at-home Cubans) want to build socialism in Cuba.   So I'd say that Occupy! and the gusanos are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

<<Since the majority of their complaint is that they aren't getting their fair share of the pie, doesn't that make them as greedy as any cuban refugee who risked life and limb on the promise of a better life? >>

LOL.  For one thing, I'm not sure that "the majority of their complaint" relates to their share of the pie.  A lot of the complaints relate also to war and pollution and the death of the planet.  But let's play.  Let's assume that their ONLY complaint is that they're not getting a fair share.  They're still not gusanos, because gusanos START with a fair share of the pie under socialism - - free cradle to grave medical and dental care, free JK to grad school education and guaranteed liveable housing, plus numerous subsidies for sporting and cultural activities.  Not content with a fair share of the pie they abandon the effort to build socialism and head instead to the imperialist enemy of their country driven by pure greed - - greed not for a fair share but for more than a fair share.  While I couldn't fault the Occupy! movement even if all they were fighting for was a fair share, I sure as hell fault the gusanos, fighting for more than a fair share and abandoning the fight to build socialism.

<<And if you aren't saying that, why aren't you?>>

LOL.  I dunno.  And if you haven't stopped beating your wife, why haven't you?

[Plane]

  Another example of greed being good.

    I am surprised to learn today that Greed is the oppsite of slavery.


     Who would have thought?

[Michael Tee]

<< Another example of greed being good.>>

[bad joke deleted by author]

Greed is not good.  Caring for others and cooperation are good.

[Plane]

<< Another example of greed being good.>>

Not if the sharks get you when you're halfway across.  Although in that case I guess it would have been good for the sharks.

(Bad joke, but I'm leaving it in cuz it's still kind of funny except not really.  I'll take it down in a few hours.  Shouldn't laugh at this even if it's a gusano.)

I don't mind a bit of tastefull gallows humor.

I can imagine Castro himself making this joke , or Jeff Davis about an escaping slave of an earlyer era.