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"After America , There is No Place to Go"
« on: October 27, 2011, 04:12:16 AM »
From an e-mail my wife forwarded me.
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America truly is the Greatest Country in the World.
By: Kitty Werthmann
 
What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote.. I've never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.
In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn't want to work; there simply weren't any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people - about 30 daily.

The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other.. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna , Linz , and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.

We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn't have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria .. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.

After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:
Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler's picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education.

Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail. The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn't do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn't exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

Equal Rights Hits Home:
In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn't work, you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn't have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.
Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines. When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:
When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children.. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:
Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna . After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.
We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn't meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.
We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

"Mercy Killing" Redefined:
In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

The Final Steps - Gun Laws:
Next came gun registration.. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.
Totalitarianism didn't come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria . Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.

After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria . Women were raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn't destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized. Those who couldn't, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians. This is an eye witness account.

"It's true..those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World. Don't Let Freedom Slip Away

"After America , There is No Place to Go"

"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Michael Tee

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Re: "After America , There is No Place to Go"
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 09:32:27 AM »
There are women all over the world who can tell worse stories of killings, tortures and rapes they have seen or experienced, but the perps are US soldiers, not Nazis.  Nazis were bad, this doesn't make the US good.  Millions of innocent people have been murdered, tortured and/or raped and sodomized by American forces or their local puppet rulers' forces since the end of WWII.  Interesting that this simpleton has to go back in time 70 years to find examples of any country worse than the US.

I kind of suspect that stories like this will start to flood the internet and the MSM as the message of OWS begins to flood into the consciousness of more and more Americans.  While the right-wing morons watch in dismay as the realization spreads that hey, there is something very, very wrong with America today and politics-as-usual can't fix it, crap like this (and the other one about Ethel Rosenberg singing God Bless America) will become your daily bread.  Talk about the opiate of the people!  Religion today can't hold a candle to crap like this.

Oh, and BTW - - that utter garbage that "Gee, we didn't know that any groups were being persecuted in Germany, we were so innocent!" - - THAT is totally ridiculous.  In the very first week of the Anschluss, the Jews of Vienna were rounded up and taken to public places where huge crowds laughed and jeered while Nazis forced them  to crawl around on the grass like animals and eat the grass till they barfed it up, scrub the sidewalks with toothbrushes and climb into trees and sing like birds.  There are plenty of photos of this, so that lying Nazi bitch can't deny it.  Which is why she doesn't mention it, also doesn't mention the great number of Austrian war criminals, torturers and murderers who served in the SS, or even the fact that Hitler himself was an Austrian.  Oh, those poor little Austrian martyrs to fascism, and then raped and murdered by the "evil" Red Army - - what's really depressing is to see with my own eyes how the sheeple believe this shit because it's the only shit they're allowed to see 24/7.  The truth is there but nobody bothers to dig it out.

You know, it's a hopeless battle - - shit like this keeps flooding the MSM and even the internet, there is a whole industry devoted to it.  Your shitty educational system (ours isn't much better) does nothing to counteract this revisionist garbage.  I don't know what else to tell you - - people you are being had.  By the Nazis and their apologists, who are basically preaching now an "anti-socialist" or anti-Communist message, by the "God Bless America" stories which are basically "Don't Worry Be Happy" messaging and by every fucking thing you will see on the internet AND the MSM.

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Re: "After America , There is No Place to Go"
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 11:30:27 AM »
I don't know which is funnier, that contrived BS story posted by Sirs, or Blowers hysterical manic reaction?

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Re: "After America , There is No Place to Go"
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 11:36:35 AM »
You know Tee.....if you'd like to share one of those stories, as I just did, by all means.  Until then, your opinion of how horrible America and its military is, outside of those few actions we all know of, where prosecutions were broght forth, remains shall we say, acutely skewed towards the irrational

And BTW, you best drop Nazi apologist crap.  You're not going to find anyone here that supported what the Nazis did, nor trying to defend or minimize it.  That knee jerk tactic makes you look far less credible, then you already are

Ahhh, and on que, sticking to his script, we have BSB's boneheaded conclusion of a supposed contrived story.......based on.......I guess we'll never know.  Good to see consistency, however
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: "After America , There is No Place to Go"
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 11:50:14 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/US/9807/06/dragging.death.02/index.html


It`s was pointed out that this was good news because  such incidents are normally in america  not newsworthy. I still remember article of somer chinese guy accidentally killed in boilers and people simply accept that chinese are very clumsy.

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 12:01:43 PM »
It's contrived, sirs, because its message is: look out America, it's gradual, first it's day care, then Obama care, then the government has stolen all your freedoms blah blah.

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Re: "After America , There is No Place to Go"
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 12:20:48 PM »
So, its contrived based nothing more ..... your say so, ........because it paints America in a rather positive light, compared to...oh Russia and Germany during WWII??  And we best not allow ourselves to repeat that horror??

Funny, but contrived or not, it sounds like a pretty damn good message.  So sorry your tone deafness couldn't grasp that point
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: "After America , There is No Place to Go"
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 12:36:58 PM »
You just topped yourself, Sirs, with that post.

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 01:12:34 PM »
Wow.........whatever that's supposed to mean.  But at least I admire your consistency
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 01:19:12 PM »
You just topped yourself, Sirs, with that post.

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That one was real impressive. How long did it take to think that response out?

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2011, 01:49:27 PM »
<<And BTW, you best drop Nazi apologist crap.  You're not going to find anyone here that supported what the Nazis did, nor trying to defend or minimize it. >>

The bitch was obviously a Nazi apologist, as evidenced by her unbelievable claims of how "innocent" they were, knowing nothing of Nazi persecutions of the Jews, also in her ludicrous reaction to Red Army rapes with no indication whatsoever of what they were in retaliation for.

I point it out every time you or your fellow Nazi-lover BSB tries to push the Nazi and/or anti-Soviet bullshit onto the group, for obvious reasons.

<<That knee jerk tactic makes you look far less credible, then you already are>>

Thanks for the tip, sirs, but here's a better idea - - you look after your own (below-zero) credibility and I'll look after mine.

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »
"Obviously", in your warped reality of what is, is, perhaps.  And news-tip, continuing to proclaim how red is blue robs you of what credibility you would like to think you ever had.  Not mine
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2011, 04:16:25 PM »
<<And news-tip, continuing to proclaim how red is blue robs you of what credibility you would like to think you ever had. >>

The problem that most intelligent people would have with your "red is blue" diagnosis is that it's painfully obvious that your knowledge of real history (as opposed to the Cold War propaganda that you were brainwashed with) is so woefully defective that you're incapable of recognizing either red or blue, leaving your "red is blue" diagnosis somewhat dubious, to say the least.

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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2011, 04:25:51 PM »
Hopefully Canadian school systems will catch up to the rest of current reality & history, in teaching history to your children's children.  It obviously was below standards when you were attending.  Your Anti-american propoganda & diatribes, complimenting your Stalin revisionist tactics are tolerated here, even producing a level of entertainment, but not much more.

Here's another tip though.....condeming the atrocites of Stalin, and the millions he murdered doesn't equate to nazi sympathizing, or letting them off the hook for the grotesque atrocities they committed.  It's a disengenuous strawman to pull on your part, with no basis in reality, outside of apparent desperation in being unable to defend the indefensible
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 06:47:08 PM »
It's contrived, sirs, because its message is: look out America, it's gradual, first it's day care, then Obama care, then the government has stolen all your freedoms blah blah.

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   I got much the same , but I took it seriously.

    Before the Natzis resorted to force , they wooed many with plush promises. When it finally came time to pay the debts even those who the Natzis were good to had a time to suffer.

     I think the warning is genuine , be carefull of your trust even if the promises seem soooooo sweet.