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[Kramer]

There was nothing high tech about the non-lynching of Clarence "Uncle" Thomas.
The man is an insult to the court and this country.

What really stands out to me is that all these African Americans that you insult with racial slurs are better than you. They are better educated, better off financially, hold & held better job positions, are more successful in life, more intelligent and more logical than you.

XO, you compared to any one of them are a dismal failure. You are pathetically unqualified compared to any one of these people.

And of course I am referring to Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice. These are people that you have racially insulted on several occasions.

[Xavier_Onassis]

You on the other hand, are a walking insult to the human race.

Assuming that you actually are capable of bipedal locomotion, of course.

[Kramer]

You on the other hand, are a walking insult to the human race.

Assuming that you actually are capable of bipedal locomotion, of course.

I note that you didn't refute my contention that all those African Americans are better than you in every facet of their lives.

[BSB]

XO >>I fail to see what the constant quoting of Goebbels has to do with anything.<<

There are are two quotes. Didn't you notice that? One is by Goebbels applying obviously to the holocaust, and other is by none other than our own Michael Tee applying to the Russian Purges.

You go along just fine XO than suddenly you drop off as if you had narcolepsy. Wake up, smell the coffee.


BSB

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is nothing to refute. If you think that every person on this planet is in competition with all the rest, you are indeed a pathetic moron, Kramer.

Since you actually think of life as some sort of lame sporting event, I should remind you that you have not achieved any degree of fame and fortune of any sort comparable to say, a former member of the Delaware State Assembly, or a member of the board of whatever company produces Screaming Yellow Zonkers.

[Plane]

I fail to see what the constant quoting of Goebbels has to do with anything.

    I think he is trying to get his point noticed and acnoledged that being a deadly racist isn't all that much worse than being a class warrior.

     If I hate Charles because he is a Jew Am I worse than Sam over there who hates Charles because he is a landlord?
     What if I hate Charles because the Czar told me to, am I worse off than Sam who hates Charles because Lennin told me to?

      No reason of this sort prevents Charles from being a good guy , a good neighbor and good for his community, but if I can use a mob and hatred of Charles can help me focus a nice mob , I might just pick whatever feature of Charles I think will seaparate him from the mob best.
     One thing here, another thing there, it is still hate used the same way.




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[Plane]

There was nothing high tech about the non-lynching of Clarence "Uncle" Thomas.
The man is an insult to the court and this country.

What really stands out to me is that all these African Americans that you insult with racial slurs are better than you. They are better educated, better off financially, ........

 Hey I missed this before.

   Not a lynching , not high tech , but an event it was.
   What defines the event , what sort of a thing was it really?
    Trying to derail a judicial appointee politically , what ought we call that?

[Michael Tee]

 <<If I hate Charles because he is a Jew Am I worse than Sam over there who hates Charles because he is a landlord?
    << What if I hate Charles because the Czar told me to, am I worse off than Sam who hates Charles because Lennin told me to?>>

What I find extremely interesting in the "conservative" [i.e., GOP, racist, corporate-friendly, flag-waving, militaristic, torture-friendly, immigrant-hating etc., etc., etc.] mindset, is how often words like "hate" or "hater" appear in their descriptions of anyone who opposes them.

It's an absolutely fascinating phenomenon, which probably deserves  a book-length treatment.  Communist or socialist leaders immediately become "mass murderers," and out of an ideological necessity (the obvious need to distance themselves from their own support of Hitler and his collaborators) on a scale that dwarfs everything that Hitler ever did.  Opponents of racism and America's one racist party, the GOP, themselves become "racists" when they denounce the racists and their Uncle Tom tools.  Opponents of militarism, war and fascism become "haters of America."

It's absolutely hilarious, but it's true - - the more you OPPOSE racism, war and violence, the easier it is for "conservatives" to brand you as a "hater" and a "racist."  It's kind of funny when a clown like BSB tries to link me to Josef Goebbels, but it goes way beyond the Beester and his own particular sick brand of guilt-based lunacy - -  it's become the Universal Talking Point of the right-wing lunatic fringe.

[Plane]

What I find extremely interesting in the "conservative" [i.e., GOP, racist, corporate-friendly, flag-waving, militaristic, torture-friendly, immigrant-hating etc., etc., etc.] mindset, is how often words like "hate" or "hater" appear in their descriptions of anyone who opposes them.

Is this an arguement that you eschew?

It's an absolutely fascinating phenomenon, which probably deserves  a book-length treatment.  Communist or socialist leaders immediately become "mass murderers," and out of an ideological necessity (the obvious need to distance themselves from their own support of Hitler and his collaborators) on a scale that dwarfs everything that Hitler ever did.  Opponents of racism and America's one racist party, the GOP, themselves become "racists" when they denounce the racists and their Uncle Tom tools.  Opponents of militarism, war and fascism become "haters of America."

The huge pile of bodys in numerous mass graves are not what make Stalin a mass murderer? Is a historical criminal bad only because we agree he is ? I do not admire Napolion either , I might have to admit that he was always the smartest guy in the room, (he might even have been if I had been there) but when he used his appeal and his resorces and followers to cause massive disruption, misery and death for he aggrandisement of himself and his cause I feel that I can criticise even such a smart guy.

It's absolutely hilarious, but it's true - - the more you OPPOSE racism, war and violence, the easier it is for "conservatives" to brand you as a "hater" and a "racist."  It's kind of funny when a clown like BSB tries to link me to Josef Goebbels, but it goes way beyond the Beester and his own particular sick brand of guilt-based lunacy - -  it's become the Universal Talking Point of the right-wing lunatic fringe.

Oh ?

Are you opposed to racism as a concept ?

Or is there certain Racism you like and certain other racism you do not?

How do you use blatant racism as an argumentitive pointmaker and attempt to call it by some other name?

Is Class hatred a lesser hatred than Racism?

[Michael Tee]

The "millions of bodies" remark I am just going to pass over, because we've been all through this before.  There's no credible evidence of anything like the numbers that have been quoted and most of them if not all were enemies of the people, whose liquidation, unfortunately, was a necessity for the survival of the Revolution.  I don't see the benefit of my being forced to refute, every week or so, a mountain of Cold War propaganda bullshit, and so I'm just leaving that one with a reference to my (too) many posts on the subject.

<<Is Class hatred a lesser hatred than Racism?>>

Always good for a laugh, it isn't so often that you so quickly (in a space of one post) revert to the very thing I was complaining of and give yet another example of the "conservative" tendency to pervert the language.  Whereas most non-conservative observers are able to speak in fairly dispassionate terms of the class war, the "conservative" ideologue prefers to speak of "class hatred" rather than the class war.  Sorry, plane, I'm not falling for that one, but I'll be happy to talk "class war" with you till the cows come home.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Trying to derail a judicial appointee politically , what ought we call that?

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It is an event.It was certainly neither high tech (which requires something with a processor) or a lynching, (which requires a cadaver).

Being as Thomas was clearly not all that sharp a tack, as his zombie tenure on the Court has shown, it was a rational process that unfortunately failed, unlike Juniorbush's attempt to put his campaign aide on the Court. She was also a dud.

Thomas' "high tech lynching" remark showed that he was prone to demented and nonobjective opinions. His wife demanding an apology from Anita Hill 20 years after the fact sort of reinforces this.

[sirs]

It's absolutely hilarious, but it's true - - the more you OPPOSE racism, war and violence, the easier it is for "conservatives" to brand you as a "hater" and a "racist."

Then stop with the ever evolving racist rhetoric, transparently disguised as supposedl OPPOSING racism, and whaalaaaa, no more branding of a racist, as a racist.  and here's a helpful hint... "Uncle Tom" has become the universal talking point of the racist wing of the lunatic left

[Michael Tee]

Thanks, sirs, for the helpful hints, but I'm afraid I'm just going to have to classify your whole post as the sort of "up is down, black is white" kind of lunatic rightwing Bizarro World nonsense that I was speaking of when addressing plane's own reversal of reality earlier in this thread.  My earlier response to him will also serve very adequately as my response to your latest exercise in reality-mangling.

[Xavier_Onassis]

"Uncle Tom" has become the universal talking point of the racist wing of the lunatic left

Only in the bizarro world of sirs.

[Plane]

Thanks, sirs, for the helpful hints, but I'm afraid I'm just going to have to classify your whole post as the sort of "up is down, black is white" kind of lunatic rightwing Bizarro World nonsense that I was speaking of when addressing plane's own reversal of reality earlier in this thread.  My earlier response to him will also serve very adequately as my response to your latest exercise in reality-mangling.

Is it more bizzaro to be against racism, or to use racism against racism?

You have not done anything that establishes your lack of racism as far as I can tell, you have simply stated disgust with certain sections of racism, an attitude I am familiar with from the other racists I know.