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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2012, 12:07:34 AM »
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   Justice Taney ruled the Mousouri compromise unconstitional after the Congress has struggled so to produce it.
   I guess he thought he needed to, but his efforts only helped widen the schism.

Except that the Kansas Nebraska Act nullified the Missouri Compromise 3 years earlier.

Ok , but this was the Supreme Court, why couldn't they have found the Kansas Nebraska Act unconstitutional?

    The majority opinion attempts to make clear the case for denying the citizenship of anyone of African ancestry.

    It was not based on high quality logic , seems more like it was based on fear.

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #76 on: March 02, 2012, 12:24:12 AM »
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Ok , but this was the Supreme Court, why couldn't they have found the Kansas Nebraska Act unconstitutional?

They could have, but that wasn't the case at hand. Dred Scott was a private property issue.


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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #77 on: March 02, 2012, 12:29:13 AM »
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Ok , but this was the Supreme Court, why couldn't they have found the Kansas Nebraska Act unconstitutional?

They could have, but that wasn't the case at hand. Dred Scott was a private property issue.

If it was not important to the question at the time , why do you bring it up now?

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #78 on: March 02, 2012, 12:37:06 AM »
"The fact is, whether a has a child or not is ENTIRELY HER BUSINESS and NOT ANY OF YOURS. It is that bloody simple."

How can anyone honestly believe this?  Is a one year old independent?  Is a 90 year old with demntia, independent?  In both cases, they are granted life and law protects them from being slaughtered, burned alive in saline, or have their brains sucked out.  And yet, an innocent life can be taken without thought or guilt.  Who stands up for these innocent lives that never had a choice?
No, it is our business.  We need to make it our business.  A three person family is destroyed every minute in this country at the hands of "Physicians" allowing a women to pursue their choice.  It is wrong now, it was wrong in the past, and it will be wrong in the future.  Life has really become meaningless to so many, that there is no longer a pang of guilt over the destruction of so many innocent babies.
So very sad, very sad.

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #79 on: March 02, 2012, 12:44:38 AM »
All the more reason to vote for the recently converted pro-lifer Mitt Romney to be the nominee.

Well that and Ann Coulter likes him since her first choice didn't run.

I second that!!!!

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #80 on: March 02, 2012, 12:47:46 AM »
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If it was not important to the question at the time , why do you bring it up now?

I believe you introduced the comparison of slavery to women's choice.


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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #81 on: March 02, 2012, 12:53:35 AM »
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If it was not important to the question at the time , why do you bring it up now?

I believe you introduced the comparison of slavery to women's choice.

Yes It is practicly the same question.

Who would support my right to own a slave ?
Would it matter how much my slaves were dependant on me?
Would it matter if my slaves were very young , small, or diffrent from a regular human somehow?


 

Why isn't a Fetus its own property?

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #82 on: March 02, 2012, 01:00:01 AM »
"The fact is, whether a has a child or not is ENTIRELY HER BUSINESS and NOT ANY OF YOURS. It is that bloody simple."

How can anyone honestly believe this?  Is a one year old independent?  Is a 90 year old with demntia, independent?  In both cases, they are granted life and law protects them from being slaughtered, burned alive in saline, or have their brains sucked out.  And yet, an innocent life can be taken without thought or guilt.  Who stands up for these innocent lives that never had a choice?
No, it is our business.  We need to make it our business.  A three person family is destroyed every minute in this country at the hands of "Physicians" allowing a women to pursue their choice.  It is wrong now, it was wrong in the past, and it will be wrong in the future.  Life has really become meaningless to so many, that there is no longer a pang of guilt over the destruction of so many innocent babies.
So very sad, very sad.

So true, and so often cloaked in the politically correct term "fetus", as if that makes their murder "ok"
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #83 on: March 02, 2012, 01:01:19 AM »
In your comparison of slavery to women's choice, who is the slave?
What is the property? What is your claim to the property.

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #84 on: March 02, 2012, 01:23:16 AM »
I am sorry BT.

I thought I stated exactly that .


Are you parseing for something specific, ..?
I fear I am shooting in the wrong direction for you.

Children are not properly reguarded as property , but as persons , even to their own parents , no matter how dependant they are , no matter how profoundly responsible the parent is for the childs existance and continued existance , persons cannot be reguarded as property under any circumstance.

As a Person-- I am-- my ownership is me, for whom should this not be?

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2012, 01:35:22 AM »
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As a Person-- I am-- my ownership is me, for whom should this not be?

Apparently this does not hold true for women with embryo.

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #86 on: March 02, 2012, 01:42:41 AM »
This reminds me of an episode of jerry springer which this one guy said" we're married, i own you ". He said this repeatedly.

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2012, 09:59:41 AM »
Sorry, I see no similarity between slavery and abortion.

According to the Holy Mother Church, NO human life is innocent. We are all conceived in sin because of Eve & Adam taking bad culinary advice from a talking snake.

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #88 on: March 04, 2012, 03:20:57 AM »
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As a Person-- I am-- my ownership is me, for whom should this not be?

Apparently this does not hold true for women with embryo.


Certainly it does.

No less than it does also for her child.

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Re: Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT
« Reply #89 on: March 04, 2012, 03:55:55 AM »
A woman with embryo is not a woman with child under current law.  She is a woman with child at around 26 weeks. Until then her ownership is hers.