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US warships turn around toward Israel
« on: November 20, 2012, 12:15:21 AM »
US warships turn around toward Israel
for possible evacuation of Americans


DEBKAfile Special Report

November 20, 2012, 1:08 AM (GMT+02:00)


USS Iwo Jima

The US has ordered three amphibious warships with 2,500 Marines aboard back to the eastern Mediterranean to remain on standby off Israel?s shore in case they are needed to evacuate American citizens. The USS Iwo Jima, the USS New York and the USS Gunston Hall, were sailing west of Gibraltar on their way to back to Norfolk, Virginia, when they were turned around.

debkafile: The United States have never before evacuated American citizens from Israel. The US notice does not say whether a possible evacuation would include the US forces posted in American bases in Israel. A mass evacuation would entail a Marine shore landing in order to lead the evacuees to the amphibious craft.

The Iwo Jima is a helicopter carrier, while the New York, one of the newest vessels of its kind in the US Navy, is a primary class of amphibious transport dock.

Although a decision to evacuate nationals was defined in the CNN report as a ?remote contingency, our sources stress that it is extreme enough to be taken only when a war situation is envisaged capable of endangering Americans.

This step negates the expectation articulated widely in Israel Monday, Nov. 19,  that a ceasefire with the Hamas is within reach. It rather indicates that Washington sees the situation surrounding the Gaza Strip in a far different light, more like a situation holding the threat of a general conflagration beyond the confines of the Israel-Hamas contest in Gaza.

According to the same report, the US military also maintains three to four ships off the coast of Israel that are capable of shooting down ballistic missiles. That deployment has stretched for some months in the face of a potential ballistic threat from Iran.


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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 10:16:23 AM »
"Christians" craves another mighty Crusade.
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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 11:07:25 AM »
There are too many Americans there to evacuate completely, we could be drawn in pretty easily.

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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 12:45:05 PM »
We were not drawn in the last time the Israelis went ape in Gaza.But that was when Mubarack's gonads were firmly in the US's pocket.

This invasion needs to be prevented. Of course, Netanyahu wants to get reelected. He is sly enough to have provoked this, but he is surely using it. He is not to be underestimated, which is why he is so dangerous.
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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 04:27:50 PM »
How did Netanyahu arrange for a barrage of missles to be fired from Gaza?

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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 04:31:50 PM »
How did Netanyahu arrange for a barrage of missles to be fired from Gaza?

well by killing the IslamoNazi that was ordering the barrage of missles be fired at Israel.
i mean how dare Israel defend itself!
Israel should be punished for defending itself against daily missle attacks & finally responding!
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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 04:54:58 PM »
How did Netanyahu arrange for a barrage of missles to be fired from Gaza?

well by killing the IslamoNazi that was ordering the barrage of missles be fired at Israel.
i mean how dare Israel defend itself!
Israel should be punished for defending itself against daily missle attacks & finally responding!


Ok time out.


I need a timeline.

Just because things follow in order does not prove causality, but if things do not follow in order causality can be disproven.

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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 06:40:08 PM »
Ok time out.
I need a timeline.

a timeline?
ha ha
whatever happens the other side blames the other for something earlier
i think this "timeline" goes back centuries if not thousands of years.
it wont be solved like most disputes by two strong-willed sides...except by war
the sooner the better....get it over with!
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2012, 08:01:56 PM »
I imagine Netanyahu has some moles in Hamas.  I would be very surprised if he did not.
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Re: US warships turn around toward Israel
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2012, 08:41:48 PM »
I imagine Netanyahu has some moles in Hamas.  I would be very surprised if he did not.

The role of a mole is to engender stupidity of the defender?

So why would Netanyahu ask a mole to start using barrages of heavy long range missles just now?

Because it will help him get re-elected?

And the cdollective brainpower of Hamas does not include anyone who can realise this?

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 01:20:33 AM »
The Israelis encouraged Hamas as a religious based Islamic movement to counteract the secular PLO, which had a LOT of Christians in its ranks at the beginning.

 It is not all that difficult to get masses of ignorant Arabs to do all sorts of stuff. We know this from rather a lot of experience.
As I said, this latest rocket attack seems to benefit Netanyahu, and Netanyahu is a very clever manipulator of people. Take the disgusting praise that our Congress made of him not so long ago. I would not put him past anything.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2012, 02:53:54 PM »
The Israelis encouraged Hamas as a religious based Islamic movement to counteract the secular PLO, which had a LOT of Christians in its ranks at the beginning.

 It is not all that difficult to get masses of ignorant Arabs to do all sorts of stuff. We know this from rather a lot of experience.
As I said, this latest rocket attack seems to benefit Netanyahu, and Netanyahu is a very clever manipulator of people. Take the disgusting praise that our Congress made of him not so long ago. I would not put him past anything.


Should the US look into the potential of building better enemys for ourselves?

Netanyahu is behind the improvement in range and payload of these missles?

Such a genius should be running General Motors , for Ford.

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2012, 03:51:46 PM »
Netanyahu is a political leader. I really doubt that he builds or designs missiles.

There are certainly competent people building missiles in Israel. But no, Netanyahu only orders missiles.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2012, 09:29:41 PM »
Netanyahu is a political leader. I really doubt that he builds or designs missiles.

There are certainly competent people building missiles in Israel. But no, Netanyahu only orders missiles.

Did he order or pay for the missles that Hamas is using?

Who does?

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2012, 09:15:19 AM »
He does not need to pay for Hamas' missiles.

Friends of Hamas do that. Again, rockets are cheap and ineffective to the cause. Netanyahu is playing on the stupidity of Hamas' leaders. Those who suffer will be the people of Gaza. And eventually, the people of Israel, who really need a peace agreement.
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