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Plane

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Looks as if I was wrong.
« on: December 04, 2012, 11:28:16 PM »
I thought that the fiscal cliff was going to be approached with trepidation and that all partys involved would dive over with protestation and regret, perhaps even pulling back from the brink .

I went on record with this speculation.

Well I think differently now, I think that we are heading for the cliff like Tina and Louise, accelerator down and laughing.

Is the president conceiling his glee?
Not very well.

Are his opponents really opposing him, not in any effective way at all, are they just riding or are they laughing too.

As a Civil Servant I feel as if I am in Tina's trunk.

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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 12:04:27 AM »
terrorists like chaos...
terrorists feel like they can cut a better deal in chaos
terrorists think the enemy is more likely to flinch in the middle of a crisis
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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 03:31:26 AM »
The GOP has tried, the Dems want nothing to do with it, because they have the MSM and polls insidiously posing that any cliff diving is being caused by the GOP.  Dems want this fiscal cliff dive now, more than ever because of the polls.  It's a supposed win-win for them, since they get the higher tax rates on everyone, including "the rich", while the defense gets some major cuts, and all the while the Dems can keep pointing at the GOP as the cause, and the MSM lapps it up

The party of the Demawonts think they've got a winner here, while they actively push the country into another recession.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 09:45:12 AM »
The GOP is an assortment of asshole servants of the superrich. They lost and refuse to accept that they are losers, losers, losers.

Some fatcat recently agreed to pay Dick Armey $8 million just to leave his phony Teabagger group and go away. He will be getting $400,000 per year until he is paid off.

You are always wrong, sirs.
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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 11:00:16 AM »
Your opinion is again duly noted, while facts would also render it wrong.  FACTS have the GOP attempting (though they shouldn't be, as it relates to increasing taxes) to compromise, but as Plane referenced, where's the spending cuts being proposed by the Dems, as it relates to their supposed campaign rhetoric of we need a balanced approach?  Is this yet another mutation of a word, like fair's been mutated.  Is "balanced" now meaning it's whatever the Democrats propose, and screw any compromise?  That's the new "balance"?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 09:13:20 PM »
Correction.

I thought that the fiscal cliff was going to be approached with trepidation and that all partys involved would dive over with protestation and regret, perhaps even pulling back from the brink .

I went on record with this speculation.

Well I think differently now, I think that we are heading for the cliff like Thelma and Louise, accelerator down and laughing.

Is the president conceiling his glee?
Not very well.

Are his opponents really opposing him, not in any effective way at all, are they just riding or are they laughing too.

As a Civil Servant I feel as if I am in Thelma's trunk.

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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 09:40:41 AM »
What they are doing now is just a game of "chicken".

I hardly think that the President is gleeful about it at all.

A 4% increase on incomes above $250K is not worth the effort the ratbag right is putting into it. They will catch the blame if they do not cave.

They will also lose far more than they could gain.
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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 09:46:22 AM »
"Looks as if I was wrong"

Well, cheer up plane. As a civil servant you're not expected to be right.

BSB

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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 10:00:21 AM »
Government workers are assumed by the right on principle to be incompetent, lazy and overpaid. I really doubt that this is true all the time. It was certainly true in the Virginia DMV, but here in Florida, the DMV people really try to do a good job with obsolete equipment and crowded facilities. I feel sorry for them.

If I were a government employee, I hardly think I would join the Teabaggers bandwagon claiming that the government and all its workers do everything wrong all the time.

After Hurricane Sandy, we know that the statement,"We're from the government and we are here to help" was NOT rejected by the victims of the storm.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 01:05:48 PM »
The GOP has tried, the Dems want nothing to do with it, because they have the MSM and polls insidiously posing that any cliff diving is being caused by the GOP.  Dems want this fiscal cliff dive now, more than ever because of the polls.  It's a supposed win-win for them, since they get the higher tax rates on everyone, including "the rich", while the defense gets some major cuts, and all the while the Dems can keep pointing at the GOP as the cause, and the MSM lapps it up

The party of the Demawonts think they've got a winner here, while they actively push the country into another recession.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Wednesday offered an amendment to force a vote on President Obama’s deficit-reduction plan, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was having none of it.

“Last week [Treasury] Secretary [Timothy] Geithner brought up a proposal that was so unserious,” McConnell said on the floor, “I would like to see if my Democratic friends would like to support it.”

McConnell suggested that the Senate vote on what he called the president’s “ridiculous” plan as an amendment to the Russian trade bill that is being considered.

Reid, however, objected to McConnell’s suggestion, saying the Russian trade bill, H.R. 6156, is about job creation, not political stunts from Republicans.

“The purpose of this bill is to protect American jobs,” Reid said. “Are we going to get serious here and legislate or is this more of the political stunts that the Republican leader is going to pull today?”

Senate Dems blocking even Obama's own legislation now

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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 12:16:25 AM »
Government workers are assumed by the right on principle to be incompetent, lazy and overpaid. I really doubt that this is true all the time. It was certainly true in the Virginia DMV, but here in Florida, the DMV people really try to do a good job with obsolete equipment and crowded facilities. I feel sorry for them.

If I were a government employee, I hardly think I would join the Teabaggers bandwagon claiming that the government and all its workers do everything wrong all the time.

After Hurricane Sandy, we know that the statement,"We're from the government and we are here to help" was NOT rejected by the victims of the storm.


From the Worms eye view, the Tea Party has only the better half of the story.

I volenteered once to assist storm victims , FEMA could not use me untill I have been through their school, which is hard to get.

Thousands of us volenteered to beef up the manpower of FEMA after Katrina, none of us were used, not firemen , not clearks , not electricians , nobody.

Are you sure FEMA has improved all that much?

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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 11:45:11 AM »
Are you sure FEMA has improved all that much?

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I have never had occasion to need FEMA. Wilma tore an awning off my house and broke some tiles on my roof, but I fixed the damages myself.

If you compare what the people in New Orleans said with those who were damaged after Wilma and Sandy, it seems that FEMA has improved considerably. The President has not appointed some dunderhead socialite to be in charge, as Juniorbush did,and FEMA learned from its mistakes.
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Re: Looks as if I was wrong.
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 10:05:47 PM »
So , you are not hearing what the people of New Jersey have been saying lately?