"I don't know what the gun would have done"

[sirs]

Doesn't take long for the hyper left to go uber irrational following a simple logical idea, like a few armed guards at a school.  Naaa, we have to make the idea into some militia mounted survivalist act.  Skip the rational and go right into the ludicrous....sop

[Plane]

It might be difficult to have a high standard and many thousands of armed guards also.

The best of the best will always be scarce , so having even one Delta force comando embeded at every school is unlikely.

At what standard might the idea start to work?

Sending some of the school administrators to train in the proper use of wepons might be possible for a lot of schools, accepting well screened volenteers might work for some.

I think probly the deepest pool of talent that could be tapped is retired soldiers .

This would include every kind of person , so screening would be a good idea.

[BT]

The quickest way to make the schools safer is to not advertise that they are gun free zones.

[Christians4LessGvt]

bank guards can alo be college kids just making tuition. .
Also i know of several banks with armed guards that often get robbed anyway.

Kimba....nothing in life is 100%.
They can break in Fort Knox if they want in bad enough.
Security is almost always a numbers game and a shell game.
If we can send billions to Islamist in Egypt,
we can certainly hire off duty officers at our schools.
I see off-duty cops working all around my area, traffic directors at private buildings
security at private buildings, security at banks, ect....

[Xavier_Onassis]

They can break in Fort Knox if they want in bad enough.

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So your opinion is that no one has broken into Fort Know because they just lacked ambition?

That is just stupid.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Boy, CU, you're really into the dooms day stuff. Armed security guards at elementary schools, survivalist gear and food, Iran is going to attack Israel, etc., etc. Chill out dude. BSB

BSB I was a Boy Scout and our motto was "Be Prepared".
I think the world is spinning out of control.
Just read the newspaper....
Something has to give....I don't trust our politicians.
Most high schools have an off duty officer, why not all schools?
The American People would be more than willing to pay for it,
instead of most of the non-sense gvt does...this is a real function.
My running water was out for 18 hours recently.
It was an eye-opener.
I see spending $100 on Life Straws as an incredibly good investment.
To be able to drink almost any water if there were a major problem for $100?
It's a no brainer to me.....but if it's not to you....ok...thats great too.
2EachHisOwn.

[Christians4LessGvt]

So your opinion is that no one has broken into Fort Know because they just lacked ambition?
That is just stupid.

No what is really stupid is your literalism.
You always miss the point, stuck on some unimportant detail.
The point is almost anywhere can be broken into if someone wants to bad enough.
The most secure banks have been robbed....the most secure locks have been picked.
Homes with cameras, security systems, guard dogs have been robbed.
Presidents surrounded by arm guards with machine guns have been shot.
People die wearing seat belts....
The point being that preventative measures are still worth taking even-though
they are not fool proof.

[sirs]

The quickest way to make the schools safer is to not advertise that they are gun free zones.

EXCELLENT suggestion.  Kinda like the house with no dog, but the sign says "beware of dog", or "this place equipped with surveillance".  Even if you didn't have armed guards, at least don't advertise that you don't.  Great suggestion, Bt

[kimba1]

Cu
I'm saying thier are not enough of these trained folks and as a guard myself i don't see that many around me. Despite my job is with the city which require higher than average security background. In fact I'm probly exactly the kind of guard for those school. It's extremely dificult finding people fill my position. Lots of willing people but very few qualify and the ones that get in by referal don't last the year. Just yesterday the museum informed us that policy changes are going to be made about armed incidents.

P.s. i don't recall school ever saying they are gun free?

[Christians4LessGvt]

Cu...I'm saying thier are not enough of these trained folks and as a guard myself i
don't see that many around me.

Ok...but we can get it done....
what....do we say "well hell nobody is trained lets just throw in the towel"
if we landed on the moon, we can get off-duty police officers in our schools.
Plus we have very high unemployement. We have lots of military retirements.
If there are not enough off-duty officers....we can start training people as well
as use the retired military and other options like professional guards like yourself.
If you're gonna do anything...there are always problems to overcome.

[Xavier_Onassis]

No what is really stupid is your literalism.
You always miss the point, stuck on some unimportant detail.
The point is almost anywhere can be broken into if someone wants to bad enough.
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But your point is clearly untrue.

No one has broken into Ft.Knox, and it is not because of a lack of desire.
If you do not wish to be accused of saying stupid thjngs, stop saying stupid things.

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The point being that preventative measures are still worth taking even-though
they are not fool proof.

Of course they are. I agree with this.

That is why we need to BAN semiautomatic rifles, like the one that was used to kill all those children.

That is why we need a national database of dangerous loonies, so fewer of them will be able to arm themselves.

Even if this guy swiped his mother's gun, that is not the usual case.

[Christians4LessGvt]

But your point is clearly untrue

Wrong again.....it is in fact quite clear that my statement is not untrue.

You on the other hand implying it is humanly impossible to break into Fort Knox
because it has not yet happened is what is untrue.

No one has broken into Ft.Knox,

No one had flew airplanes into the World Trade Center either.
Under your logic, you would have said it was impossible or not for lack of desire
When it clearly was possible, just had not been done.

If you do not wish to be accused of saying stupid thjngs, stop saying stupid things.

Being accused of saying something stupid by the ultimate stupid is not really high on my importance level.

[sirs]

d'oh     

[Christians4LessGvt]

d'oh     

arguing over not-important to the point details is his obvious way to deflect away from
the primary point and his way to attack those who he hates....he is a hateful old rascal Sirs!

[sirs]

That's a pretty fair summation