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« on: April 04, 2014, 06:32:27 AM »

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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 12:56:51 AM »
Looks like I have no need to do business with Nozilla.  Gads, the left's wreak of hypocrisy.....tolerance of only views they accept
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 04:15:38 PM »
You should boycott them.

I am sure that they will be deeply aggrieved.
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 05:31:49 PM »
If enough of me does, they shall
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2014, 05:44:02 PM »
They only loose my potential business.
Not a big threat I suppose.

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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 02:15:52 AM »
Another scalp claimed for thinking "wrongly" according to the tolerance crowd.
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2014, 09:23:17 PM »
  If a lot of people delete Mozilla firefox, how much time lag will there be before it is a noticeable impact on the business?

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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2014, 10:11:12 PM »
Doesn't matter to me, since my decision to avoid using such an intolerant organization is personal.  If such a re-percussive outcry were to negatively impact their business however, I won't lose any sleep over it
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2014, 10:36:16 AM »
Corporations Aren't People,  Except When They're Liberals

April 13, 2014

by Calvin Freiburger

The forced resignation of Mozilla Corporation CEO and co-founder Brendan Eich may be a disgrace, but it couldn't have come at a better time to demonstrate just how empty of genuine guiding principles the Left is.

For those just tuning in, the gay mafia recently called for Eich's head upon learning he had donated $1,000 to Proposition 8, the 2008 California ballot initiative defining marriage as a union of one man and one woman.

Despite the fact that Prop. 8 didn't touch the domestic-partner registry that gave gay Californians all the benefit and contract powers that come with marriage (i.e., anything that could be reasonably construed as an actual right), and despite the admission of Mozilla executive chair Mitchell Baker that she "never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from [Eich] that was not in line with Mozilla's values of inclusiveness," he had to go because his personal support for marriage didn't fit Mozill's "organizational culture" of "diversity and inclusiveness."

In other words, Mozilla makes decisions based on the judgment that opposing same-sex marriage is inconsistent with their values and conscience.

Say, what's going on at the Supreme Court these days?

Yes, this expression of "Mozilla's official support of equality an inclusion for LGBT people" happens to coincide with the Obama Administration's efforts to force companies like Hobby Lobby to subsidize abortifacient contraceptives against their will, because corporations aren't people and therefore cannot hold beliefs or exercise consciences.

By that logic, what does it matter what Mozilla's CEO thinks about same-sex marriage? Why look to the company for anything pertaining to "marriage equality"? All that matters is the bottom line, right? If anything, Mozilla's conscience claims would be even weaker than Hobby Lobby's, since there's no evidence a donation Eich made as a private citizen affected his work at Mozilla in any way, while Hobby Lobby faces an ultimatum of violating their faith or accepting heavy fines.

The truth is that all the Left's hand-wringing over corporate personhood is a facade. They're not applying some broader principle that they would respect even if it led to outcomes they dislike. All that matters is that they get the result they want. A "corporate conscience" aligned with the Progressive Utopia is just fine, but one that won't get with the PC program must be regulated, sued, and demonized into submission.

By contrast, look at conservatives, reaction to Eich's persecution. Many of us have condemned its immorality, unfairness, and hatefulness, and many of us have chosen to boycott Firefox, but virtually nobody has denied that Mozilla would have been legally entitled to fire him. None of us are proposing new laws or threatening lawsuits to force them to take him back.

That's because we actually believe in freedom, even when we dislike the way it's exercised. And because we recognize that the question of whether corporations count as people is a massive red herring, the real question is whether the people who operate through such business structures give up their First Amendment rights just because they go into business. Because we understand that "we're not taking away the Greens' freedom, just their corporations" is as asinine as barricading my driveway, then telling me, "we didn't impede your freedom of travel, just your car's."

Hypocrisy in politics is nothing new, even hypocrisy this glaring. But liberalism is somewhat unique in that it has certain tenets built in to help its followers pretend they aren't hypocrites. As Jonah Goldberg explained earlier this week:

They cheat by denying their ideological motivations, even to themselves. Indeed, it is a constant trope of liberalism to believe, dogmatically, ideologically, that they are just empiricists and fact-finders doing what is right and good in a battle against dogmatic ideologues on the right. The more honest approach would be to simply admit your biases upfront and defend the principles that inform your biases. Instead they prefer to make arguments grounded in the assumption that the liberal "frame" is really a perfect window onto reality.

To their dogma, liberalism isn't an ideology at all, but simply the baseline for human decency and rationality, so it is by definition exempt from the standards which conservative views and actions must follow.

That's what makes the above double-standard okay, opposition to abortion-inducing drugs is a regressive prejudice, while supporting gay marriage isn't a subjective belief at all, it's the default for any respectable member of polite society.

Hence, the need to blacklist. It's for equality.

http://patriotupdate.com/articles/corporations-arent-peopleexcept-theyre-liberals/

« Last Edit: April 14, 2014, 10:41:59 AM by Christians4LessGvt »
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2014, 11:26:09 AM »
If being run by a gay-hater, Mozilla thinks it loses business, they have a right to not hire this guy. Not because Mozilla is a person, only because it could be a detriment to Mozilla's business. 

Mozilla, like all web browsers, is free, so people could easily choose Chrome or Explorer lieu of Firefox.  Perhaps they did market research on this, I would think that that would be the best way to ascertain such a move.
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 12:21:38 PM »
Want to explain how simply supporting the notion that marriage is between a man and a woman equates to "gay hating"??  I have both family and friends who are gay, who I love, and they love me, and they know exactly my position on "gay marriage".  One doesn't equate to the other.  A majority of this state support the notion that marriage is between a man and a woman.  A majority of this country supports the notion that marriage is between a man and a woman.  That doesn't equate to we all hate gays.  You do realize that's exactly the position Obama had, when he was 1st running for President.  Where was the outrcry that he resign as President, for such a position??

The hypocrisy of the left and this viral political correctness that infects them is truely scary
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2014, 02:40:22 PM »
Want to explain how simply supporting the notion that marriage is between a man and a woman equates to "gay hating"?? 

It's typical Leftist doctrine....call someone a racist or a "hater" if they have a different opinion.
It's a way to try to end debate....instead of having to respond to facts.
It actually is an example of Liberal intolerance.
http://convictionsoffaith.com/2013/4/9/democrats-are-desperate-to-distract-in-2014

I suppose Obama and Clinton were both "HATERS" 5 years ago!  ::)
Several Democratic US Senators oppose Same Sex Marriage....are they "haters"?  ::)
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2014, 03:50:20 PM »
Want to explain how simply supporting the notion that marriage is between a man and a woman equates to "gay hating"?? 

It's typical Leftist doctrine....call someone a racist or a "hater" if they have a different opinion.
It's a way to try and end debate....instead of having to respond to facts.

It actually is an example of Liberal intolerance.
http://convictionsoffaith.com/2013/4/9/democrats-are-desperate-to-distract-in-2014

I suppose Obama and Clinton were both "HATERS" 5 years ago!  ::)
Several Democratic US Senators oppose Same Sex Marriage....are they "haters"?  ::)

BINGO!!
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2014, 04:35:33 PM »
You guys are all haters. Really. Otherwise why would you give a damn about two people getting married? It could not affect you in the slightest.
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Re: Mozilla
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2014, 04:50:59 PM »
I don't give a damn.  Just don't call it marriage...that's between a man and a woman.  It's like a man being able to have a baby.....in that case they wouldn't be a man....they'd be a woman.  Definitions have meanings.  Sometimes the meanings are sacred. 

I realize the effort to redefine terms based on nothing more than the winds of political correctness.  The point remains, that where's the clamoring how Obama was a hater, demanding his resignation?, where Democrats across the country are all haters, if they don't support the new wave definition of marriage?

So, why don't you try to explain how simply supporting the term marriage as the union between a man & a woman, the position Obama himself had, equates to hating gays??   That's the original question that you have yet to answer
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