Iranians can't pull off mock attack.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Iranian stealth submarine sinks before
targeting a mock US carrier in an a naval exercise

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

May 6, 2014, 4:55


Iranian Ghadir-class mini-submarine

A new Iranian Ghadir-class stealth mini-submarine, home-built with Chinese technology, recently sank near the Strait of Hormuz, while preparing for a Revolutionary Guards naval exercise to practice sinking or disabling a mock-up US aircraft carrier, DEBKAfile's military and intelligence sources report exclusively.

The sub was launched just a year ago.

The Iranians drew a tight veil of secrecy over the accident, curtailing the search for the estimated 10 crewmen to avoid drawing the notice of US or other intelligence agencies in the region.
Chinese and Russian teams secretly enlisted to help search for the sunken mini-submarine, quickly abandoned it saying that none of the crew could have survived. It was up to Iran to decide, they said, whether to continue the search at the risk of exposing its plans for sinking US carriers in a war contingency. So long as the sub stayed on the bottom, its stealth technology would make it hard for Western intelligence to locate it.

The ill-fated submarine was to have shown its paces by striking a replica of the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier Iran had built at the Bandar Abbas naval base.

The replica was spotted by US satellites. Challenged for an explanation, the Iranians first tried claiming it was to be used in a film documenting the naval forces present in the Persian Gulf.
But then on April 27, the Navy Commander Rear Adm. Ali Fadavi gave the game a way by saying: "Iranian forces should target the carrier in the trainings. We should learn about the weaknesses and strengths of our enemy."

On May 6, Adm. Fadavi made a more warlike statement that clearly defined "the enemy" when he said: "They [Americans] know nothing. We have been making and sinking replicas of US destroyers, frigates and warships for long years, and we have sunk the replica of their vessels in 50 seconds through a series of operational measures."

The semi-official Fars agency quoted him as saying also: "Destroying the US navy remains one of the top operational goals of the Tehran forces. If war with the United States breaks out, the Iranians will attack American aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf, their size making them easy to target."

Tehran assumed its aggressive face the day before US National Security Adviser Susan Rice and senior US nuclear negotiator Wendy Sherman were due in Israel to persuade Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to live with the comprehensive nuclear accord shortly to be signed with Iran by the six world powers. They will also demand an Israel guarantee not to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, although the prime minister made this threat on Holocaust Day on April 27.
The Iranian navy chief's words were a message to Washington that if Netanyahu does engage in military action against Iran, the American fleet will be at risk.

Iran?s military planners had assigned the new Ghadir-class mini-submarines the task of an attack to bring the US navy fleet, especially the carriers, to a halt - easy prey for a thousand IRGC torpedo boats armed with sea-to-sea missiles to strike the stationary vessels from all directions.
Iranian naval experts count on sinking a carrier or leaving it too crippled to move to safety and forced to call on US bases in Qatar, Kuwait, Oman and Yemen for air cover.

Adm. Fadavi's words, placing "destroying the US navy" among the operational goals of the Tehran forces" were meant to deter the US and Israel against military action.

DEBKAfile's military sources reveal that IRGC chiefs are also looking at ways of disabling US warships in the Mediterranean, to put them out of action for a second-strike attack on the Lebanese Hizballah by missiles or for sending bombers over Iran.

Not all Western naval experts agree on Tehran's objectives or capabilities. Some discount the Iran's speedboats' ability to carry more than one sea-to-sea rocket, or two at most. And the US helicopters taking off from the targeted warship or ground bases would soon be able to sink them.
Iranian forces recently tested the option of arming the explosive speedboat?s crews with shoulder-carried anti-helicopter rockets, but gave up after 10 boats tipped over during the test.

The Revolutionary Guards Corps has a fleet of 10,000 small boats which are capable of great speed but easily overbalance.

If the US or Israel do decide to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, the anchorages of these boats would be among their first targets. Each of these anchorages, which are strung along the Iranian Persian Gulf coast, houses around 100 boats.

http://www.debka.com/article/23894/An-Iranian-stealth-submarine-sinks-before-targeting-a-mock-US-carrier-in-an-a-naval-exercise

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http://news.msn.com/world/iran-admiral-us-ships-are-a-target-in-case-of-war

Iran is building a simple replica of the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz in a shipyard in the southern port of Bandar Abbas in order to be used in future military exercises, an Iranian newspaper confirmed last month.

Fadavi was quoted Tuesday by the semi-official Fars news agency as saying the immense size of the U.S. carriers makes them an "easy target." He said contingency plans to target American carriers are a priority for the Guard's naval forces.

"Aircraft carriers are the symbol of America's military might," he said. "The carriers are responsible for supplying America's air power. So, it's natural that we want to sink the carriers."

The Revolutionary Guard's naval forces are separate from the main Iranian navy. They are primarily based in and around the Gulf and include a number of missile boats and fast-attack vessels.

The commander said the Guard navy has already carried out exercises targeting mock-ups of American warships. In one case, he said, it took 50 seconds to destroy one of the simulated warships.

     Tiny subs would be a natural thing to try , but minisubs tend to be slow and Carriers tend to be fast, so the strategy for using a minisub would probably involve a stealthy ambush.

   This would not be easy to pull off, minisubs generally have short range and small endurance.

    So here they have told us their plan, we should be ashamed to let it work.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/22/iran-fake-us-aircraft-carrier-nimitz/6740979/




This is the goofiest thing I have read this year so far.


Thanks for bringing this hilarious thing .

[Xavier_Onassis]

It seems to make sense to me that Iran should build a mock carrier. If the US were to attack, a carrier would certainly be used. It is impossible that a mock carrier could be invisible to US satellites.  It is possible that the Iranians screw up because of the US, Israel or someone else infiltrating their services or bribing their people to screw up.

It is wise for the US to do this. And, hey! Obama probably okayed it. Will the ratbag right ever recognize this? Of course not!

[sirs]

And of course, you'd be wrong, ....... yet again.  Nothing new there

[Xavier_Onassis]

Let's see some proof of your silly statements, sirs.

[sirs]

Did I support the increase in drone strikes that Obama ok'd?  Yea.  Did I support Obama's ok to take out Bin Laden?, Yep

Like I said, your consistency at erroneous claims and proclamations remains intact

[Plane]

  It is possible that the Iranians screw up because of the US, Israel or someone else infiltrating their services or bribing their people to screw up.

That would make this waste of shipbuilding time a success of the CIA?


Even better if they are not only goofy , but also gullible and goofy.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The mock up could still serve them well, just as targets serve to improve the shooting of soldiers who shoot at them.

It makes perfect sense for any army to do what it can to simulate the sort of attack that threatens them. Iranians are no different than anyone else.