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Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« on: June 10, 2014, 11:31:45 AM »
Since the left won't allow us to fight a real war,
in hindsight we should have left Saddam in power.


Qaeda-ISIS conquers Iraqi Mosul,
links up with Syrian front for core of Islamist state


DEBKAfile Special Report

June 10, 2014



Al Qaeda in Iraq (ISIS: Islamist State of Iraq and Syria), captured the northern Iraqi oil city of Mosul, capital of Nineveh Province, Tuesday, June 10, after the Iraqi military defenders caved in and fled. Mosul is Iraq's third largest city after Baghdad and Basra with a population of around two million.

Ministers in Nuri al-Maliki's government have sent desperate appeals to the Obama administration for help to save Baghdad and Iraq from doom.

DEBKAfile's military sources report that the Iraqi army's command facilities and bases in Mosul are ablaze and many bodies of Iraqi soldiers are lying in the town's streets. Convoys of fleeing troops were ambushed by the invaders and destroyed.

The fall of Mosul with heavy casualties is the worst disaster suffered by the Iraqi army in its feeble attempts to fend off the deep inroads Al Qaeda has been making in the country for more than a year. ISIS now controls two major Iraqi cities, after capturing Fallujah earlier this year, has overrun parts of Ramadi and Tikrit, as well as eastern provinces bordering on Iran, Diyala province and parts of the town Baquba, where just Tuesday, 20 people were killed in two explosions.

The loss to Islamist terrorists of Mosul, home to Arab, Assyrian, Christian, Turcoman and Kurdish minorities - and the site of Old Testament prophets such as Jonah, is critical for six additional reasons outlined here by DEBKAfile's counter-terror and military sources:

1. Mosul's conquest gives ISIS the key to the highway to Baghdad, enabling its fighters to advance on the capital from three directions: the west from Fallujah and Ramadi, the east from Diyala and now the north, from Mosul.

2. ISIS can  merge its Iraqi and Syrian fronts and move its forces freely between them.

3. Mosul straddles the two banks of the vital Tigris-Euphratest river system shared by Iraq, Turkey, Syria and Iran. The Iraqi Islamists now have their hand on its flow.

4. With Mosul?s capture, Bakr Al-Baghdadi, commander of ISIS, had taken a flying leap towards his avowed goal of establishing an independent Islamist state in the heart of the Middle East. No army has been able or willing to stem his steady advance, including the United States, although his state would present a direct threat to Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey and Israel.

5. Mosul is a vital link in Iraq's northern oil trade; one third of its exported crude is pumped past this city from Kirkuk and it also has a refinery.

6. Iran and Hizballah face a second front in Syria opened by Al Qaeda from Iraq. To save their proudest strategic gains in Syria, Tehran will have to send troops into Iraq to save Baghdad from falling to the Islamists, or else see Syria falling into another abyss, this one of vicious Sunni-Shiite warfare.

http://www.debka.com/article/23987/Al-Qaeda-ISIS-conquers-Iraqi-Mosul-links-up-with-Syrian-front-for-core-of-Islamist-state
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2014, 01:33:41 PM »
Iraqi Islamists break 1,000 terrorists out of Mosul jail

DEBKAfile

June 10, 2014

After overrunning the northern Iraqi city of Mosul Tuesday, ISIS jihadists broke open the high-security city jail and freed 1,000 prisoners, most of them adherents.

They were immediately armed to join in the fighting for the capture of the oil city.

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/8464/
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2014, 04:37:31 PM »
Iraqis are in charge of Iraq. So what? we did all we could and then some.

I don't trust Debkafiles.
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2014, 09:01:18 PM »
I don't trust Debkafiles.

Well you can always wait for the LameStreamMedia you hold in such
high regard to catch up and finally report what Debka does 12-36 hours earlier.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/10/world/meast/iraq-violence/
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2014, 11:59:10 AM »
You realize C, that this will all be blamed on Bush, right?
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2014, 12:57:37 PM »
You realize C, that this will all be blamed on Bush, right?

SIRS....Oh for sure......but to be honest there is some blame with Bush.

The overall failure/blame belongs with the Left.

But Bush should have anticipated how difficult our enemies and the Left would
make our road in Iraq. The Left was never going to allow the US to act in
the a "William Tecumseh Sherman" manner. William Tecumseh Sherman
understood what real war is......what it takes to win wars...how an enemy
must be completely destroyed....Bush should have known we are too soft
to conduct war that way anymore....and that the Left would prefer to put
off the pain which eventually causes more death and destruction.

Bush and company should have realized they would not be allowed to fight
a war the way it should be fought. Bush and company should have probably
realized the "3rd Column"...the anti-American Left would sensationalize every
mistake and mostly ignore anything positive...Bush and Company should have
been aware that Iran, Syria, and the American Left would do everything in their
power to prevent Iraq from being a success....from becoming a democracy. The
last thing the Left wanted was a success story coming out of removing Saddam.

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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2014, 01:58:53 PM »
Not sure what you can Blame Bush on here for.  Lots of blame for his Democrat light domestic spending binge, and policies that helped speed up the housing market crash that was set in motion by Clinton's actions. 

But Iraq was handled as best as could be done, under the circumstances, IMHO.  I've seen all the reports, all the official conclusions, and Bush made a Judgement call, that at the time was the right one to make.  The post-Iraq war was pretty disorganized, and that should have been handled better......so I suppose that's a blame that could be placed on Bush and his folk

That said, it's a downright agreement that when Obama took office, he took the spotlight off Iraq, and has allowed it to become the hellhole its now turned into.  Just more of that marvelous foreign policy of his, by our Community Organizer & Chief
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 12:13:10 AM »
Al Qaeda forms up to march on Baghdad,
gathering up Iraqi Sunni rebels. Maliki cries treason


DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

June 11, 2014

Under its commander, Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, Al Qaeda's Islamic State in Iraq and Levant, ISIS - formed up Wednesday night, June 6, to march on Baghdad in two columns, one from Tikrit, which fell a few hours earlier, to Taji, just 20 km from the capital; the second from Tuz Khormato, 55 km south of the northern oil center of Kirkuk.

The Shiite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered the last two divisions and six mechanized brigades, totaling 50,000, still operational out of his million-strong army, to build a defensive line to save Baghdad and the seat of Iraqi government from the enemy.

But it remains to be seen how these units perform, given the way the 3rd and 4th divisions supposed to have defended Mosul and the central Salahuddin province melted away under Al Qaeda onslaughts Tuesday and Wednesday, June 10-11.

Al-Baghdadi has assigned the second column heading for Baghdad the additional task of wrapping up Islamist control of the eastern province of Diyala on the Iranian border.

The first column will approach the capital from the north; the second from the east. Suicide bombers have meanwhile fanned ahead of the columns to smash the roadblocks and military posts set up in their path to check their advance
 This week, Muslim extremists worldwide acclaimed the ISIS chief their hero.

debkafile's military and intelligence sources report that al Qaeda's march of conquest at incredible speed, while causing havoc and misery across Iraq, is also beginning to mutate from a terrorist assault into an insurgency. It is gathering up a growing following of disaffected Sunnis ready for revolt against the Shiite-led government in Baghdad.

Sunni Muslims account for around one-third of the Iraqi population of 35 million and their numbers are therefore in the region of 12 to14 million.

Wednesday alone, in a lightening push, ISIS fighters captured the Iraqi oil refinery and electricity power center of Biji (Baiji), 200 km southeast of Mosul, torched the court and police buildings and warned local police and soldiers not to challenge them. They next moved south to seize Hawajah and Tikrit, Saddam Hussein's birthplace, 140 km northwest of Baghdad.

With the Mosul refinery, the Islamists now control Iraq's northern oil refining facilities as well as the Biji power center which supplies Baghdad and Kirkuk with electricity.

Our military sources found various Sunni militias, who had never before followed al Qaeda - not during the American occupation, or even last year when al ISIS began moving fighting strength from Syria to Iraq - flocking to the ISIS campaign against Nuri al-Maliki.

Among them are not only demoralized army commanders, but adherents of  the dictator Saddam Hussein's secular Baath Party, who have come out of retirement to join the jihad against Shiite rule.

 Wednesday night, the panic-stricken Al- Maliki accused Sunni politicians and army chiefs of "betraying the Iraqi motherland".

He refused to believe that Al Qaeda had been able unaided to conquer northern and central Iraq in a two-day blitz, unless it was the fruit of a long conspiracy carried out between the Islamists and Sunni leaders behind his back. The Iraqi prime minister alleged that the Sunni plotters against the government had provided Al-Baghdadi with intelligence, funds and arms caches ready for his fighters to use.

http://www.debka.com/article/23991/Al-Qaeda-forms-up-to-march-on-Baghdad-gathering-up-Iraqi-Sunni-rebels-Maliki-cries-treason
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 12:02:29 PM »
Iran has to be very concerned that Sunni Al Qaeda Extremist
are on the verge of taking over oil-rich Iraq!

Iran is spending hundreds of millions to save Assad in Syria from Al Qaeda extremist,
and now they've got a major, major problem next door in Iraq.

In fact don't be surprised if Iranian Troops (Shia) are soon on the ground in Iraq
fighting Sunnis.

I guess "the plan" continues....having Muslims slaughter Muslims.
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 01:46:18 PM »
interesting perspective on Iraq/Syria/Libya

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4301.htm
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 02:32:02 PM »
How many times has Debkafiles announced that a military strike by Israel on Iran is imminent?
I think Debkafiles is pro Isreali as well as alarmist, and I do not trust them.
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2014, 06:11:20 PM »
How many times has Debkafiles announced that a military strike by Israel on Iran is imminent?
I think Debkafiles is pro Isreali as well as alarmist, and I do not trust them.

So just like I said....
wait a few hours/days and your buddies at CNN will catch up and report it!



Iran sends forces to Iraq as ISIS militants press forward, official says

By Faith Karimi and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/13/world/meast/iraq-violence/index.html
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2014, 01:21:15 PM »
As Sarah Palin said: "Let Allah sort it out!"

We need to stay out of Iraq!

On a side note:
It's funny Assad and Iran BOTH sheltered and gave aid to rebels
hellbent on stopping the US from establishing a democratic Iraq.
Now it is Assad and Iran afraid of being over-run by rebels!

What goes around comes around!
Ha Ha Ha Ha
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2014, 08:33:25 AM »
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Re: Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2014, 11:31:00 AM »
This group is unlikely to overrun Iran or Syria. They are in Iraq because they sensed that the mostly Shia Iraqi army were a bunch of wusses.

I agree that the US should not send troops to fight in Iraq: let the Iraqis sort out their own messes.
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