Michael Brown May Have Juvi Record Relating to Murder!

[sirs]

Considering "messes like this" rarely happen, given the millions of stops officers make across the country, and considering you weren't there to know precisely what this officer was confronted with, best to examine the tragedy with the facts on the table rather than through the lenses of hypersensitized emotions stimulated by those attempting to exploit the situation

[Xavier_Onassis]

The cop was just stupid. He was a disservice to his force and to his community.

[Plane]

If you are sitting in your Crown Vic with the motor running and the windows up, you are safe from thugs.

You are the chief of police, you have an officer that never gets out of his car until backup shows up.

Do you council him or just fire him?


You are the Chief of police in Ferguson, you know either information that exonerates your injured officer , or you know information that will very likely convict him, and you keep mum.  That is the mystery. Neither of these makes sense, does the police chief not know how badly the officer is hurt? 

[Plane]

THat is not the issue.

The issue is that he was unarmed and shot dead in the street.

That isn't really an issue, either.

[Plane]

The cop was just stupid. He was a disservice to his force and to his community.

  We just do not know this, for all we know you are right , but just as likely this policeman made the best choice he could have.

  Here is a speculative possibility, for which I have insufficient evidence to have confidence.

    A policeman sees a pair of jaywalkers, they look very young, but nothing really strange about them, they fit in to the neighborhood and don't seem to be armed.

      The policeman pulls near then and turns on his lights intending to tell them not to jaywalk and to help them get across the traffic to safety.

      What the policeman did not know was that these two were involved in a crime earlier in that day, and worse these guys did not know that the policeman did not know.

      Was one of these guys a tough that was accustomed to punching his way out of trouble? this would be interesting to know , but we do not know .

     Did the guy surprise the policeman as he was getting out of the car? That is a vulnerable moment if it is a surprise.

      So possibly , the unarmed guy tried to get the gun right off the hip of the policeman and shoot him with it , a thing that happens now and then.

       In the fight that happens over the gun , anything can happen, including both of them being shot.


       The nature and severity of the injuries on the officer might not reveal the truth, but it could be that they would.

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...............cops are killed by their own weapons (51) Since 2000

This is roughly ten percent of policemen fatally shot in the line of duty.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/11/robert-farago/washington-post-more-cops-killed-by-their-own-gun-than-straw-purchases/

[sirs]

The cop was just stupid. He was a disservice to his force and to his community.

You weren't there....you have no idea if he acted stupid.  He may have acted in the only way possible to defend himself.  We won't know until all the FACTS are on the table vs this ongoing attempt in exploiting the situation through hyper-sensitized emotions

Notice how so many keep trying to lay blame on the officer.  What could Brown have done differently??  What could he have done to still be alive today?  One wonders just how reckless his actions were, that brought about such a tragic end

[sirs]

The issue is that he was unarmed and shot dead in the street.

That isn't really an issue, either.

That's kinda what I was saying, as well   

[Xavier_Onassis]

The issue is that a cop shot a kid dead in the street and it caused a huge destruction of property.

The mission of the police is to protect and defend..

The mission was not fulfilled. Ferguson was thrown into a state of rebellion. The police were unable to protect or defend.

[Plane]

The issue is that a cop shot a kid dead in the street and it caused a huge destruction of property.

The mission of the police is to protect and defend..

The mission was not fulfilled. Ferguson was thrown into a state of rebellion. The police were unable to protect or defend.

This is two issues and not necessarily connected ones.

Lets imagine something.

Some very convincing proof is found that the incident was entirely the policeman's fault, he will still be given a fair trial I hope then I further hope that he draws a penalty appropriate, life in prison or death if it is really egregious and unmitigated.

If so , what were the riots good for?


Imagine something different, Imagine that a real proof is found that the dead guy was totally at fault, well I don't hope he will get a fair trial or be punished worse , but in this case what were the riots accomplishing?

    Time was that the KKK organized most serious rioting, those times were not better , were they?

[sirs]

The issue is that a cop shot a kid dead in the street

No, the issue is the circumstances that brought that situation, to its end

and it caused a huge destruction of property.

RIOTS caused that, as pushed by the enablers, JJ, Sharpton, and yes, Obama.  The officer did nothing to bring that on

The mission of the police is to protect and defend..

And they do the best damn job they can at that.

The mission was not fulfilled. Ferguson was thrown into a state of rebellion. The police were unable to protect or defend.

And one wonders just how much of that can be placed at the foot of Mr. Brown

[Xavier_Onassis]

Sharpton did not arrive until AFTER the rioting, and he didn't tell anyone to riot.
The riots were caused by a cop making a poor decision.
He did not protect anyone.
He was not defending anyone.

[Plane]

The riots were caused by a cop making a poor decision.

No.

This is exactly what we do not know.

[kimba1]

no matter what the truth is ferguson will suffer and nobody wins .

[sirs]

Good point, Kimba

[Xavier_Onassis]

No one will win much as a direct result of this. It is possible that it will cause residents of Ferguson to be more democratic and to participate more in the city government,both as voters and candidates.