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sirs

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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2014, 11:39:50 PM »
LOL.....is that the new response mechanism?  When unable to deal with the current facts of the matter....punt, and proclaim the other person makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense to anyone that dares to deal with the issue objectively.  But let's re-ask the question that sort of was glossed over in the ever going attempt to rail on the GOP......are you now on record on indicating how dumb/idiotic Obama was for declaring how he, as President, is not allowed by the Constitution, to do exactly now what he says he's going to do?  (that being an executive order to grant amnesty to millions of immigrants that are here illegally)

He publicly declared that he was constitutionally not allowed to do precisely that.  Doing so now would truly make no sense, and per your parameters, pretty dumb

Not to mention that the timing of it, being enacted after the election, pretty cowardly.  Shrewd, but cowardly
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2014, 11:45:16 AM »
You still make no sense.

You are the coward. If you had any guts, you would  go to DC and make a citizen's arrest of the President.

Yella to the core!
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2014, 12:18:27 PM »
LOL........ you do make me laugh sometimes, professor     ;D     And thanks for the non-answer which directly answers what we already knew
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2014, 04:05:47 PM »
What we already know is that you make no sense and are full of crap.
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2014, 04:39:36 PM »
To you, and you alone, perhaps.  Though that's largely a choice you make.
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2014, 03:28:55 AM »
Obama Tries To Keep Amnesty Off 2014 Ballot

President Barack Obama delayed his planned unilateral amnesty until after the election to prevent GOP legislators or the media from recognizing it as an election-winner for the GOP, according to White House spokesman Josh Earnest.

“Had the president moved forward with his announcement prior to election day, you would have seen Republican candidates do more to make the immigration issue central to their campaign, and in the event they were successful in their campaign, the concern would be that they would cite their opposition to immigration reform as a reason for their success,” Earnest told reporters Oct. 8.

“It is important to protect the political viability of an issue that the president thinks is a top domestic priority, and that’s immigration reform,” Earnest said.

“That is an unusual moment of candor,” said one Hill aide, who opposes Obama’s planned rollback of immigration enforcement for several million illegals.

“The president has effectively said through his spokesman to the American people ‘If you like your borders, you can keep them, but only if you defeat Democratic senators this cycle,’” the aide told The Daily Caller.

The public will back Republicans in 2014 and 2016 who oppose the planned amnesty, he said, because “there is no issue that is more visceral than who you let into the country and in what numbers.”

In early September, Obama announced he would delay his planned enforcement rollback from the end of summer, to the end of the year.

He made that announcement as many polls showed that the touted amnesty was strongly opposed by his base, by Democrats, by swing-voters, by working Americans and by many Latinos.

Those polls have largely been ignored by establishment reporters, who frequently suggest that Americans want increased immigration, despite the lousy economy.

Earnest said White House officials don’t want Republicans or the media concluding that immigration is an election-winner for Republicans.

That is not a story line that the president wanted, or that anyone here wanted to contribute to,” he said.

Delaying the unilateral action “is less an issue about try to dictate or influence the outcome of the elections and more about making sure that the immigration issue is not a casualty of the post election political analysis,” he said.

Since last year, growing public opposition has persuaded the GOP leadership to reverse its initial support for the Senate’s “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” bill.

The amnesty and guest-worker bill was backed by Obama, progressives and business interests because it would have amnestied at least 12 million illegals and doubled the annual inflow of legal immigrants and guest-workers. That inflow would have matched the number of young Americans who enter the workforce each year, likely stalling wages and widening the wealth gap.

But the GOP’s top leaders aren’t pushing back against Obama’s end-of-year amnesty, said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

“The Republican leadership is cooperating with Obama in trying to downplay this election as a referendum on his amnesty,” Krikorian said.

Some GOP candidates, such as Rep. Tom Cotton in Arkansas, Terry Lynn Land in Michigan and Scott Brown in New Hampshire are raising the immigration issue, he said. The National Republican Senatorial Committee and and allies of Karl Rove — both of which are close to business donors — have quietly used the issue too.

However, only Cotton is challenging his opponent on amnesty, he said, even though two-thirds of the GOP caucus voted against the Obama-backed immigration bill in June 2013.

“Two-thirds of the Republican caucus in the Senate voted the right way, and it mystifies me why they would not want to offend [Sen. John McCain plus other GOP amnesty supporters] and instead, side with the majority of the Republicans in the Senate,” he said.

Clearly, there’s no question that the Democrats were running away from this immigration issue,” Krikorian said.

But “the opportunity for Republicans is to sharpen the debate over this issue, to clarify it, and say ‘Let’s have a clear vote on this and see what people want,’” he added.
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2014, 10:14:03 AM »
More nonsense.
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2014, 10:39:58 AM »
You mean more inconvenient truths
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2014, 06:53:28 PM »
You would not know the truth if it was a large purple opossum with the word "TRUTH" written on it and it bit you on the schlong.


It would be fun to watch, however.
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2014, 07:26:02 PM »
Professor deflection strikes again....anything and everything to avoid dealing with the point being made.

Bravo

For those rationally minded, still paying attention to the point, one can witness the shrewd political manuever being made by the President.  A year ago, he made it abundantly clear that he COULD NOT DO, per the Constitution, what he's now saying he's going to do.  When he realized congress wasn't going to act, he proclaimed how he would supercede his constitutional boundry, and with the stroke of his pen, and order to the Justice Dept, to not enforce existing immigration law, literally give amnesty, by executive fiat, to millions of immigrants that would not respect our laws on entering our country.  Laws that any other country would be severely enforcing, if not militarizing

But, the initial theory was that the GOP led House of Representatives was simply obstructing.  Apparently that was in error.  The country, by way of polling, demonstrated MOST of the country, including his base didn't want this passed, especially Democrats right before the election

Good gravy, what to do?  Dems want and need that increase in poverty driven low skilled workers, since it'd be a Big Govenrment dream, to have to then "help" millions more, requiring billions more in tax dollars, but then they'd get decimated at the ballot box.  Ahhh, the shrewed but coward's way out.....we make such a move AFTER the election, that way the Dems don't have to defend what the majority of the country does NOT want, but they still get the millions of low skilled/unskilled immigrants poverty level immigrants that will "obviously" need a massive amount of Government assistance

Shrewd.  Cowardly and completely unconstitutional, per his words himself, but shrewd
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2014, 03:17:19 PM »
The polar opposite of real leadership

The Obama administration wants 34 million blank work permits and green cards as the White House prepares to issue an executive order on amnesty after the November election.
 
An online solicitation by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigrations Services seeks vendors that can produce a minimum 4 million cards per year for five years, and 9 million in the early stages.
 
If the numbers reported by Breitbart.com on Monday are correct, they are vastly larger than official estimates of 12 million illegal residents in this country.
 
“There aren’t enough federal employees from here to Pluto to do adequate background checks on 34 million,” said Bob Dane, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
 
Dane told Watchdog.org that President Obama appears “to be getting his ducks in a row” before legalizing illegal residents by executive fiat.
 
“It’s another petulant display of contempt of Congress,” he said.
 
A USCIS official told MailOnline the solicitation for green cards was published “in case the president makes the move we think he will.”
 
But the official said the agency is not yet committed to buying the materials.
 
David North, a policy analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies, said Monday’s disclosure was par for the course.
 
It is ironic that the lesser details of this operation, the purchase of ID documents via public announcements and competitive bidding, are all done strictly by the book. But the substance — the proposed legalization of millions of people without congressional authorization — is handled in a dubious, if not down-right illegal manner,” North said
 
Dane said Congress should “cut off funding” for the blank documents that would pave the way to legal residency and citizenship.
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2014, 03:22:13 AM »
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Re: The Cowardice of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2014, 10:35:12 PM »
So.....current chronology

- When Obama had BOTH houses of congress in his control, apparently "immigration reform" wasn't such a big deal.  Could have done anything, regarding immigration reform, for 2 YEARS, and apparently chose not to

- When Obama still had Democrat control of the Senate, he made it crystal clear, that as President, he did not have the authority to simply "right some wrong", via supplementing new legislation via executive fiat

- Months before the latest midterm elections, he declares how massively important immigration reform is "now", and that congress act before he does (what he said not a year ago before that he couldn't) come Labor day, or there-a bouts

- Democrats (& the White House) see the polling that clearly indicate that not only is immigration not as big an issue to Americans, as other areas, such as the economy, jobs, and increasing terrorist concerns, but that the people overwhelmingly DON'T SUPPORT IT, so they best not pull such an act before the election

- Democrats get shellacked in the elections anyways....thank you Obamination Care

- And NOW, apparently the President MUST act, BEFORE the next congress is sworn in......why again?  Couldn't allow the people, via their newly elected representatives to address this after their swearing in.....why again?

Anything wrong with the time table?

Political cowardice on full display......then again, ends justify the means with this mutated brand of liberalism
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