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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2014, 07:26:30 AM »
As a rule, PBS and NPR clearly separate facts and events from opinions. Fox combines the two very often.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2014, 10:36:11 AM »
Examples please.  Your mere opinion does not make it a fact
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2014, 12:59:37 PM »
I normally find PBS and NPR to be factually accurate, more so than CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and Fox, all of which are much less complete in presenting all the facts.

I certainly do not agree with all the commentators. Te biggest fallacy is the one in which it is assumed that there are only two alternatives: this or that, stay or leave, fight or get out, buy or sell. Usually there are more than one alternatives. Usually there are nuances. Morons compare everything to Munich, to the Cuban Missile Crisis, to the Cold War. That is just a waste of time when it comes to a deep understanding.
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2014, 01:12:22 PM »
Your opinion that Fox blends opinion in their reporting the news is duly noted
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2014, 02:55:14 PM »
It is also bloody true. here are a couple of recent examples.

       
    Syria
    Report: Syria response stalled under micromanaging White House.
If this said that someone claimed that Obama was micromanaging, then that would be news.
Labeling it micromanaging is an OPINION.

    Chris Stirewalt   
    Fox News First

    Grimes jumps shark, won't say she voted for Obama. "Jumps shark" is an OPINION here. 
    by Chris Stirewalt
   
Fox does this ALL THE TIME. It is not reporting, it is editorializing. It is not fair, it is not balanced.
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2014, 03:34:57 PM »
When you can start leveling that critique objectively, in the direction of outlets that are far more abusive in that tactic, such as the evening news at NBC, CBS, ABC,  New York Times,  etc., etc., etc.   Now, if you're gonna pull the symmetry card, I never claimed Fox doesn't lean right.  However, the vast predominance of the MSM SIGNIFICANTLY LEANS LEFT.  So, if you want any of your criticism at Fox to mean anything, you best start aiming at those places that attempt to manipulate and editorialize far more than Fox could possibly catch up to
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2014, 06:51:45 PM »
What the crap is the MSM?

There is no such thing. You can't lump all the broadcasters together as thought they were all working for the same people for the same reasons. That is utterly stupid.
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2014, 07:13:05 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 10, 2014, 06:51:45 PM
What the crap is the MSM?

It's what its been since its been referenced, for YEARS here...the Main Stream Media    ::)   So yea, there is such a thing, and yea, I can lump all those who have a left leaning, circle-the-wagons approach in defending this President and administration.  That's not their function.  But if you want, you can list them all out, 1 by one.  I gave you a head start with the last post. 

And no one claimed that they were "working together", professor deflection.  They simply have a common goal

So, when you start demonstrating some objectivity in lamenting a news agency daring to editorialize the news....hint, Fox can't even compete with the other boys on the block, then your decrying how bad Fox is, can be taken with a little credibility
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2014, 09:04:17 PM »
That is like saying"The National Highway System", "Campbells Soup" or "The Press". Rarely do all of these sources agree on anything.

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2014, 09:17:16 PM »
The exception being the MSM
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2014, 09:40:51 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 08, 2014, 04:28:52 PM
You only recognize one side.
You therefore are going to see everything that
shows both sides as one sided.

I know you are responding to SIRS....but
LOL.....you are describing XO to a "T".
You seem incapable of giving Bush credit for anything.
Yet I cite numerous credits to Clinton...and some to even Obama.
You are the one that is blind!

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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2014, 10:16:16 PM »
I have not murmured one word about Juniorbush for a very long time.

He funded AIDS in Africa, that was a good thing. There! Take that!
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2014, 10:48:17 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 10, 2014, 06:51:45 PM
What the crap is the MSM?

There is no such thing. You can't lump all the broadcasters together as thought they were all working for the same people for the same reasons. That is utterly stupid.


    You can't believe that there is an oligarchy attempting to manipulate public opinion?

    I think there are several oligarchies.

    A few are formal organizations, a bunch are loose or temporary confederations , and some are just influential individuals willing to spend what it takes to sway the public. 
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2014, 01:30:25 AM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 10, 2014, 10:16:16 PM
He funded AIDS in Africa, that was a good thing. There! Take that!

Finally after being shown your double-standard you state a truth!
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Re: Ammunition.
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2014, 01:45:54 AM »
And let's not forget the frequent use of Bush as the end-all be-all reason for everything bad that Obama is supposedly having to clean up.  Nothing is related to anything Obama or the Dems have done.  It's all Bush's fault
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