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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2016, 05:41:25 PM »
erroneous opinion, duly noted     ::)
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2016, 06:02:04 PM »
You are not rationally minded and are tipsy with Cool Ade nearly all of the time.


I deserve that for posting a direct quote of HRC.

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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2016, 06:20:47 PM »
The fact is there are alot of crimes that are not harmful to people, but the actions of Clinton, as demonstrated by these clear calls on her part, to alter classified documents, are absolutely harmful to the integrity of our system of Government....and why such an act would be a felony, for anyone else to have done the same.  Patreous was convicted for far less a transgression
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2016, 10:16:22 AM »
Petraeus was not convicted of anything. He resigned when an FBI investigation uncovered an affair he was having with his biographer.
He was chosen to be the official whipping boy for the flap over the Benghazi mess.He had nothing to do with Benghazi, but  rightwingers in Congress  wanted the attack to be proclaimed as a planned terist attack rather than a spontaneous reaction to an stupid video put on youtube by an idiot.

Not that it made the people killed any less dead,
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2016, 01:17:09 PM »
Nor did anyone claim any connection of Benghazi to Patreus.  Simply that his actions were far less criminal in nature than Clinton's, and look what he was forced to do

And newsflash....IT WAS A PLANNED TERRORIST ATTACK, that not only could have been mitigated during the attack, had forces been immediately deployed, when they all knew it was a terrorist attack in progress, but had we had a State Dept and SoS a tad more focused on their job description & requirements, could have even been foreseen & prevented. 

And that would have made people much less dead
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2016, 07:21:30 PM »
   Imagine the frustration of an ambassador who could see this sort of attack gathering and coming, but cannot catch the attention of his boss.

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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2016, 07:40:07 PM »
That did not actually happen in such a way that the Cavalry from Ft Meade could come galloping to the rescue.

I really do not care whether Wasserman resigns or not. I will leave the management of the Democratic Party up to the Democrats.
 
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2016, 09:57:20 PM »
That did not actually happen in such a way that the Cavalry from Ft Meade could come galloping to the rescue.


Oh?

Over all, the warnings from the ambassador went on for weeks.

So , what do you mean?

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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2016, 10:24:18 PM »
   Imagine the frustration of an ambassador who could see this sort of attack gathering and coming, but cannot catch the attention of his boss.

Indeed.  >:(
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2016, 11:39:25 PM »
That did not actually happen in such a way that the Cavalry from Ft Meade could come galloping to the rescue.

It happened in such a way, that had forces near the area been deployed immediately, when it was DETERMINED a terrorist attack was underway, that lives, including Ambassador Stevens, could have been saved.  We had Special Forces in Tripoli, for crying out loud.  Even a pair of F-18's could have been vectored in from bases in Italy or Germany, or Harriers from the Large U.S. ships located in the Mediterranean, which likely would have prevented the subsequent mortar attack that took place HOURS after the initial attack started.  But nothing.....and that's all Obama's non-call.  Clinton has no say in those orders

However, it resulted in such a way, because of the gross incompetence of the State Dept, headed by SoS Clinton, ignoring repeated requests for added security, in a region that was becoming more and more hostile, as the anniversary of 911 was approaching.

And NO, for the learning impaired, neither Clinton nor Obama caused the attack, before professor deflection tries to throw that in.  This has always been how they handled the events prior, during, and most egregiously afterwards


I really do not care whether Wasserman resigns or not.

Of course you don't.....she has a "D" after her name.  Had this been a Republican President, SoS, and head of the RNC, you'd be singing a different apoplectic tune, demanding not just resignations, but indictments, if not impeachment
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2016, 11:41:41 PM »
You cannot rescue anyone with fighter jets.

And it is pretty dumb to criticize me for what you think I would have done. Your imagination is pretty pathetic.
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2016, 11:47:03 PM »
That didn't take long, with that deflection.   ::)   Who claimed fighter jets could perform rescues??  Fighter jets could have easily dispersed the masses starting, and with laser targeting provided by special forces, could have easily taken out any mortar encampments, are large groupings of terrorsists.  The sight of the jets alone could have sent many of the terrorists attacking fleeing...giving time for rescue HELICOPTERS from ships in the Med, to come in and perform the actual rescues

And I'll opine all I want about your obvious dispositions when it comes to similar hypothetical situations, if the political tables were reversed.....thank you very much     ::)
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2016, 11:50:48 PM »
Blah blah blah Now you are some sort of military strategist.

The Benghazi thing was just one day. The Iraq War was a fuck up lasting for several years. They had no plans at all for what would happen after they removed all the Iraqi troops and police.
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2016, 12:04:29 AM »
So, the deflections continue I see.  When unable to defend the indefensible, bring up Iraq...which IIRC, WAS WAR, SO PEOPLE DID DIE.  That's an unfortunate and tragic result of war...and why we try to win wars ASAP, rather than let them fester. 

It doesn't take a "military strategist" to grasp what could have been done with the forces we NOW KNOW, were not just in the region, but an email from then-Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash to State Department made it painfully clear that “forces that could move to Benghazi” during the terrorist attack.  In an email sent to top Department of State officials, Bash says, “we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak.”

The "Benghazi thing" is a demonstrating of just how incompetent both Obama and Clinton show themselves to be, and the lengths of lying they'll pull to try and cover their political asses
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Re: Democratic Group Demands Debbie Wasserman Schultz Resign!
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2016, 11:17:28 PM »
  Anyone can make a mistake, the real skill is in casting the blame on someone else.