ahhh...look at all the pouty children

[sirs]

They didn't get exactly what they demanded so they had to make it appear that they supposedly cared

[Xavier_Onassis]

Beats shutting down the government and costing millions, which is what StupidTED did.
Fuck the NRA! Up their giggies with a wah-wah brush!

[sirs]

lol....doesn't change the present immature childish behavior by a bunch of "grown-ups", on grand display, for all to see.  Looks like they're waiting to be told its nap time

[Plane]

  This is a big adoo...

   Is it about something or nothing?

      If these measures had passed , how would any of them have improved any safety anywhere?



     They may think it would , but the evidence is unconvincing.

[sirs]

The evidence is overwhelmingly unconvincing.  NOT ONE of the bills that was voted down in the Senate would have stopped either the Orlando shooting or the San Bernadino shooting.  And every one of the bills (2 GOP bills, and 2 Democrat bills) had poison pill amendments put on them, by the opposite party, to make sure they'd go down in defeat

It was a perfect example of just how dysfuctional & polar DC has become, and how the Dems simply wanted the "talking point", knowing nothing would pass, with the amendments were put on them

Now the House Dems wants to have the same talking points.....to claim that the GOP doesn't care, when they no nothing will pass, since NO ONE is working to try to find common ground.  The NRA and GOP absolutely want to keep guns out of the hands of would be terrorists.....but you don't slaughter the herd to find the one rabid one.  And you don't throw out due process and prevent someone from exercising their 2nd amendment rights, without having absolutely valid evidence of terrorist activity & ties.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The majority of the people favor a no fly, no buy policy. The majority of the citizens want  fewer people with assault rifles.
That means the majority of the people know that the 2nd amendment was improperly interpreted.

I doubt Thomas Jefferson would have approved of assault weapons for everyone.

[Plane]

You need not doubt.


quote---."When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."                     - Thomas Jefferson

https://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/when-government-fears-people-there-libertyquotation


In the opinion of Thomas Jefferson, the people are adequately armed when the government has reason to worry about it .

[Plane]

The majority of the people favor a no fly, no buy policy. The majority of the citizens want  fewer people with assault rifles.
That means the majority of the people know that the 2nd amendment was improperly interpreted.

........................

Does the Majority of the people know that nothing at all prevents the government from putting the majority of the people on the terrorist watch list?

[sirs]

BINGO

[Xavier_Onassis]

Does the Majority of the people know that nothing at all prevents the government from putting the majority of the people on the terrorist watch list?

They could mail a traffic light ticket to everyone as well.

Logic prevents them from doing this. As usual, sirs, put your bingo back in your trousers.

[sirs]

There is no such thing as a no drive fast list.  You don't get it.  You're not sent anything,,... you're just placed on a no fly list because of "concerns" that the FBI might have.  Your name could simply be similar to an actual terrorist, but you have no idea until you try to fly or attempt to exercise your 2nd Amendment right, at which time, THEN you find out that your constitutional right has been revoked, and its up to the person to petition the Government to get their rights returned that should have never been revoked in the 1st place

[Plane]

Does the Majority of the people know that nothing at all prevents the government from putting the majority of the people on the terrorist watch list?

They could mail a traffic light ticket to everyone as well.

Logic prevents them from doing this. As usual, sirs, put your bingo back in your trousers.

   

There is no logic that prevents this.

If the governments desires to curtail our rights as citizens , and use no due process , this is what it might look like.

A government that can put 100% of us in the terrorist watch list would have de facto repealed the second amendment.

Tell me with a straight face that President HR Clinton would use good logic rather than whatever dodge made an end run around the obstacles.

[Xavier_Onassis]

All logic prevents this.

In the Miami Herald daily poll, 70% of the people who responded (and I did not) support the Democrats.

I think it will help them get reelected.
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Marco Rubio, a shameless opportunist entirely lacking in any ability other than corrupt Florida politics, now has decided that his Senate job was not that bad after all. I agree that it has far better salary and benefits than anything else anyone would pay this scummy little worm. Rick Scott, the man whose vast pilfered fortune allowed him to buy a position as governor of this unfortunate state, is not supporting Marco. He is supporting some other, richer, Republican't,

Christie made a total fool of Marco in the debates. And of course, he pledged NOT to run. But someone with money has pledged to support him. I am thinkint the Sugar Baron Fanjuls and some real estate scammers.

[Plane]

All logic prevents this.

Nope .

If the FBI wants to put you , or your category of persons on the Terror watch list , they will.

No logic prevents this.

No logic was required in the first place.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Would you prefer flying if they let dangerous people on board the plane?

You can dispute the way in which they make up no-fly lists, but it is pretty clear that people judged loony enough to blow up an airliner should not ab allowed to own deadly semiautomatic assault rifles.