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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2007, 02:47:21 AM »
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Do you suppose that something is profoundly wrong with the law?

I think some people who are in prison should not be and i think some people being deported shouldn't be.

But until the laws are changed, that is the way it is. Sometimes the problem  isn't the crime, it is getting caught.

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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2007, 02:51:18 AM »
  I think that the power is nacent in the labor.

   If the  workers we need for feeding ourselves got together and determined to scrupulously obey the aw for one harvest season , by the next harvest season there would be some new law.


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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2007, 06:15:44 AM »
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If the  workers we need for feeding ourselves got together and determined to scrupulously obey the aw for one harvest season , by the next harvest season there would be some new law.

You are probably right. The world is full of rent seekers and there are plenty of people willing to deliver what they want if the price is right.

Pot laws because of new fangled resins. Zoning laws and setbacks designed to keep things the way they were or to make way for new things. Prisoner temp agencies in lieu of worker programs. Some people talk, others do. Fairness Doctrines that aren't fair at all. Tax the rich until there are rich no more. Keep your eye on the ball. Some peoples interest might not be to your best interest.

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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2007, 06:14:38 PM »
As a civil servent I have a fairly unique prespective on how good a business entity the government can be(lousy)
also as someone who many many times almost end up in prison ,I have a understanding how jail happy the government can be.
but a for profit system in prison is not a very good idea.
my state has a prison economy and we`re paying for that mistake right now .
the end result for all this is more prisoners
note nothing is designed to lower the prison population

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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2007, 06:54:49 PM »
Most local governments manage an enterprise fund that is where profits from utilities are invested. On your water bill for example you pay not only the true cost of the service but also a slight markup that is reinvested in infrastructure and rainy day funds. Most city charters allow for raiding of this enterprise fund to cover shortfalls in the general fund.

On the local level your city government is often managed by a part time city council, made up usually of business men so it is not surprising that for profit utilities can be well run.


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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2007, 07:25:38 PM »
here it`s a board of supervisors composed of various people elected to the positions.
and pretty much they just spend money that`s not here.
right now they`re complaining why so little money is collected from the parking meters.
almost blaining that the handicaps are trying up the revenue.
most are not business people.
one supervisor mistakenly quoted freakanomics when he shouldn`t.
it was pretty obvious he never read that book.
I`m gonna try to run again next term
at 115k a year it`s worth a try.
hell if these loser can make it,i sure qualify for the job

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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2007, 12:03:54 AM »

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Re: A sign of things to come?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2007, 01:52:43 AM »

Do you suppose that something is profoundly wrong with the law?


I'm fairly certain of it.
Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.
--Hieronymus Karl Frederick Baron von Munchausen ("The Adventures of Baron Munchausen" [1988])--