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Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« on: July 21, 2007, 02:25:43 PM »
I feel so sorry for this kid. Do you?
Georgia's top court hears teen-sex appeal
Story Highlights
NEW: Georgia's highest court hears Genarlow Wilson teen-sex case

Wilson serving 10 years for consensual sex at age 17 with 15-year-old

Judge threw out sentence, but attorney general appealed blocking release

Attorney general concerned appeal would free other sex offenders
ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- The courtroom was packed with supporters and cameras Friday as Georgia's top justices heard arguments over whether a young man serving a 10-year prison term for consensual oral sex with a fellow teenager should be freed.

The long punishment spurred angry protests and led the state to change the sentencing law.

A state judge in June ordered the young man freed, but because of an appeal by the state attorney general, Genarlow Wilson remains behind bars.

The Supreme Court justices will decide whether the state judge's order freeing Wilson should stand.

Attorney General Thurbert Baker argues that the order to free Wilson, if upheld, could be used to help free some 1,300 child molesters from Georgia prison.

"We urge you to look beyond the confines of this case," Senior Assistant Attorney General Paula Smith told the court's seven justices Friday. Watch a judge ask, "Where is the justice?" ?

Wilson's lawyer, B.J. Bernstein, said that Wilson's decade-long mandatory sentence violated the constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

"Every day that a defendant spends in jail is a precious day in their life," Bernstein said.

The justices seemed to be wrestling with how to provide Wilson relief under the law.

"We have a responsibility to enforce the law," Justice Robert Benham asked. "Should we do that at the expense of fairness?"

The 1995 law Wilson violated was changed in 2006 to make oral sex between teens close in age a misdemeanor, similar to the law regarding teen sexual intercourse. But the Supreme Court later ruled the 2006 law could not be applied retroactively.

Wilson was convicted of aggravated child molestation following a 2003 New Year's Eve Party at a Douglas County hotel room where he was shown on videotape having oral sex with a 15-year-old girl. Wilson was 17 at the time.

The state Supreme Court had declined Wilson's appeal of his conviction and sentence, but the justices agreed to hear the state's appeal of a Monroe County judge's decision to reduce Wilson's sentence to 12 months and free him. The Monroe County judge had called the 10-year sentence a "grave miscarriage of justice."

Former state Rep. Matthew Towery, the author of the 1995 law, submitted a friend of the court brief supporting Wilson's release.

"The General Assembly never intended for the Child Protection Act's harsh felony sentences designed to punish adults who prey on children to be used to punish consensual sexual acts between teenagers close in age," Towery's brief said.

Bernstein argued that the law's changes in 2006 marked a "tectonic shift" in how Georgia views voluntary consensual teen sex. She also noted the rarity of legislation that softens punishment.

"The new reality is that teen sexual experimentation is commonplace in an era where the media bombards teens with sexual imagery," she wrote.

Baker countered that it is well established that criminals are subject to the penalty in place when the law is violated. To apply legislative changes retroactively would invite chaos, he argued.

"It potentially affects countless others who may be in the prison system or on probation or who have completed their sentences," Baker wrote.

Outside court, satellite trucks and Georgia State Patrol cars lined the streets, reflecting the attention the case has drawn. A New York-based hedge fund manager volunteered to help post $1 million bond for Wilson, and hundreds of supporters, including the Rev. Al Sharpton, held a rally earlier this month demanding Wilson's release.

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/07/20/teen.sex.ap/index.html 
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2007, 02:43:13 PM »
The law at the time was that he was guilty of statutory rape, and he was sentenced according to those guideliines in effect at the time.

Ignorance of the law, blah blah blah...

Unfortunate, but I'm an 'If you can't do the time, then don't do the crime' kinda guy.
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 02:48:44 PM »
Genarlow Wilson should never have been put on trial in the first place. I've read about this case before. I understand the reason for the law, but putting that young man on trial was unreasonable. And his sentence is asinine.
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2007, 02:50:47 PM »
True.

But he was tried, convicted and sentenced under the law at that time.

His bad.
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2007, 02:58:45 PM »
I get what you're saying. He went through the system and the laws was applied. But if there is room in the system to correct a unreasonable abuse of the system, then I think it should be pursued. Do you not agree?
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 03:01:03 PM »
Certainly. In the meantime, though, why should I pity him? After all, he's the one who committed the crime.
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2007, 03:06:15 PM »
Well, I suppose I feel pity for the guy because I think what he did shouldn't be a crime. I think the system treated him unreasonably. But that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 03:16:18 PM »
I agree with U. Prince.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 03:19:39 PM »
Well, I suppose I feel pity for the guy because I think what he did shouldn't be a crime. I think the system treated him unreasonably. But that's just my opinion.

Perhaps this thought process is what also falls in line with the laws we have regarding immigration.  That basically you don't agree with them, but they are there.  You believe "the system" is treating illegal immigrants unreasonably, correct?
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2007, 03:22:18 PM »
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Well, I suppose I feel pity for the guy because I think what he did shouldn't be a crime.

I agree. Coulda been me, oh, a long time ago. I didn't get caught, tried, convicted and sentenced, though. He did. And from what I understand, there was a videotape of the event involved. Now I admit, videotape wasn't around back in my day - well, personal camcorders weren't around, anyway - but even I wouldn't have been stupid enough to have someone take still pictures or 8mm film of me committing a crime.

I just have different standards of who or what deserves my pity. Not necessarily higher, or better, just different.
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2007, 03:30:10 PM »

Perhaps this thought process is what also falls in line with the laws we have regarding immigration.  That basically you don't agree with them, but they are there.  You believe "the system" is treating illegal immigrants unreasonably, correct?


Yeah, I do.
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2007, 03:32:55 PM »

I just have different standards of who or what deserves my pity. Not necessarily higher, or better, just different.


I can respect that.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2007, 04:17:47 PM »
Perhaps this thought process is what also falls in line with the laws we have regarding immigration.  That basically you don't agree with them, but they are there.  You believe "the system" is treating illegal immigrants unreasonably, correct?

Yeah, I do.

Cool, then at least we understand each other
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 04:27:07 PM »
About frakkin' time.
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Re: Oral Sex gets him a 10 year sentence
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2007, 05:51:17 PM »
There are "innumerable" instances each working day when prosecutors (a pivotal part of the justice system) exercise a generally unreviewable (up to a point) discretion to charge lesser crimes or not to charge crimes at all based on a mix of circumstance, character of the accused, and absurdity of the law. Such discretion should have been exercised here in any locale in any state of any nation in this modern age. Through logical extension, I suppose, we're now going to sentence eight-year-olds to hard time for playing "doctor." Further, the other point in the system where relief could have been provvided, assuming no good defense, is at the sentencing stage, where the judge can impose the minimum allowed by law, which often includes probation. In New Jersey there is provision for an even less drastic disposition called "pretrial intervention" or "PTI," a noncustodial remedy which even expunges the (very often) youthful "offender's" record once a course of community service or therapy ("use a condom, son!") has been completed. Contrary to H, the dictates of justice do not always lie in the dry word of legislation often scratched out in bitter compromise between factions insisting, say, that the Lord is guiding their negotiating strategy. The purpose of the Lord, instead, often lies in creatively using the materials presented to bring "justice" -- a comprehensive concept which must consider each material aspect of the problem -- to the standards of society allegedly breached and to the individual who (illustrated in bold colors here) is far more, and better than his one act of youthful discretion. Finally, not even having a superficial grasp of 8th Amendment jurisprudence without a modicum of research, I nonetheless would -- as a thorough work-up of this case -- explore whether the concept has any bearing on the severity of the punishment imposed here compared to benign nature of the "affront to society."
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