<<See what I mean. Squat objectivity. 1 reference to a torture manual, as if that's all it takes to offset the 99% rest of the time condemning the U.S for atrocities supposedly even worse than AlQeada, minus of course any evidence, outside of throwing out the term "Abu Graib", again as if that's all it takes to condemn the U.S. for AlQeada like torturing, minus of course the fact such abuses are prosecuted. And even then, those prosecuted are apparently merely "scapegoats," because Tee just knows that the orders were comng from Rumsefeld, Cheney, Bush even. Because, they're just that evil. Priceless And yea, your "criticisms" are pretty much gross distortions, hyperbolic opinions, and downright lies, so yea, they fall into the realm of Anti-American & irrational. But at least you're proud of it, so you have that going for you>>
Your problem is that you are unwilling or unable to live in the real world, so you have to fabricate facts wholesale on an ongoing basis to support your weird alternative reality world.
For starters, you claim I speak with zero objectivity, i.e. from a completely one-sided perspective. Then when that lie is blown up in your face, you minimize the criticism I have levelled against the Muslims. For example, here in this thread, though I referenced on a minute's notice (1) the al Qaeda in Iraq torture manual (2) the torture and murder of Canadian journalist Zahra Kazemi and (3) the torture and murder of Bahai women in Iranian jails, you acknowldege here {quoting your own exact words) "
1 reference to a torture manual, as if that's all it takes." Clearly lying to give the impression that my criticism of the Muslim side was limited to one single instance.
More examples of your lying and bullshit from this very thread: "
minus of course any evidence, outside of throwing out the term "Abu Graib", again as if that's all it takes to condemn the U.S. for AlQeada like torturing . . . " Of course there were many more instances of U.S. torture and higher responsibility, all of them referenced by me in our exchanges: the Gonzalez memo, the hidden Abu Ghraib photos and videos, being roughly 90% of the total haul, Baghram Base, rendition to other countries such as Syria and Egypt and Jordan for "outsourced" torture, secret CIA torture chambers all over the world, the "President's" reservation to himself of the right to define what is torture, and the CIA involvement in the torture operations of both Shi'a and Sunni Resistance groups. But in your lying bullshit view of things, I "throw out" the term "Abu Ghraib" "
as if that's all it takes." Trying to bullshit everyone into believing that "Abu Ghraib" is the only fact I have to go on. I also started a whole new thread on the tortures inflicted on Jose Padilla and that certainly was not in Abu Ghraib, it was right here in the U.S.A. in a North Carolina brig. Torture has come to the mainland.
<<because Tee just knows that the orders were comng from Rumsefeld, Cheney, Bush even.
Because, they're just that evil. Priceless >>
More fucking lies and bullshit. (Honest to God, sirs, are you capable of posting anything else but?) Tee surmises that the orders came down from the top because of the widespread pervasiveness of the incidents of torture, the similarity of many of the torture techniques, the Gonzales torture memo rationalizing the use of torture (actually written by John Koo) , the lack of any prosecution of senior officers, the minimal slap-on-the-wrist nature of the penalties handed out and the low-ranking status of all the victims of these show trials. Certainly the reasons I gave for my opinions were well known to you. In other posts you derisively refer to them as "Tee-leaf reading" and that's OK - - nobody says you have to agree with them. But here you are just plain lying - - although you know WHY I believe what I believe, you try to convince others with your lies and bullshit that I "know" the orders came down from the top "because they are . . . evil." This is really why nobody can take you seriously. You just make up stuff as it suits you, even when it's obvious that you yourself know that it's fake. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you are not even a very good liar.
<<And yea, your "criticisms" are pretty much gross distortions . . .>>
Every one of them is fact-based, and other than simply denying the fact or fact I based it on, you have never been able to disprove even one fact on which my criticism was based.
<< . . . hyperbolic opinions>>
guilty as charged on some occasions, my Lord. George Bush is not really a chimp but a human being. The U.S. military are not Neanderthals, they are just low-hanging fruit, high school dropouts and general dead-enders. Nothing wrong with a little hyperbole to make a point, especially when the other side is drowning in its own hyperbole.
<< . . . and downright lies>>
Still waiting for even one to be exposed, sirs. Since I've exposed at least three of yours in just this very post, and probably dozens more in other posts, I'm still waiting for you to point out just ONE lie of mine.
<< so yea, they fall into the realm of Anti-American>>
I think we've been through this before. To be anti-militarist and anti-fascist is NOT to be anti-American, except in the eyes of American militarists and fascists for whom America is or should be both fascist and militaristic. Militarism and fascism are anathema to the spirit of the Constitution of the U.S.A. and are profoundly UN-American. You and the people you resemble and/or represent are the greatest threat to America that it will ever face. Much bigger than the much-hyped (by your ilk) "threat" of Islam, which has no hope in hell of destroying America. I fear that Lanya and other wonderful folks like her are fighting a valiant but losing battle and America is fucked, not by Muslims but by YOU. Liars and bullshit artists to the core, people constitutionally unable to tell the truth if it goes against their politics. To oppose you and people like you and everything you stand for is to defend the highest ideals of America including the Constitution and the rule of law.
<< . . . & irrational. >>
I forgot that I was dealing with someone who writes his own dictionary, someone for whom "all" does not mean "all," "victim" does not mean "victim" and apparently "irrational" must mean "cogent, factual and compelling." WHATever.
