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Obama's Supporters Say "Viva Che!"
« on: February 15, 2008, 09:06:47 AM »
Obama's Supporters Say "Viva Che!"

By Humberto Fontova
FrontPageMagazine.com | 2/15/2008

During recent interviews of Obama campaign workers on Houston's Fox TV station, the offices of two Texas Obama campaign volunteers (including a precinct captain and head of the "Houston Obama Leadership Team") were found prominently decorated with Che Guevara images, against the backdrop of Cuban flags. The MSM kept mum, but the conservative blogoshere spread the story. Intrepid blogger Henry Gomez (Babalu Blog), uncovered 15 different pages of Che Guevara well-wishers on the official Obama campaign site.

Two days after the Fox TV airing the Obama campaign finally went on record and in a terse statement described the Houston office posters as "inappropriate."

"The U.S. is the great enemy of mankind!" raved Ernesto "Che" Guevara in 1961. "Against those hyenas there is no option but extermination. We will bring the war to the imperialist enemies' very home, to his places of work and recreation. The imperialist enemy must feel like a hunted animal wherever he moves. Thus we'll destroy him! We must keep our hatred against them (the U.S.) alive and fan it to paroxysms!"

Compared to Che Guevara, Ahmadinejad sounds like the Dalai Lama.

On November 17, 1962, J Edgar Hoover's FBI discovered that Che Guevara's bombast had substance. They infiltrated and cracked a plot by Cuban agents that targeted Macy's, Gimbel's, Bloomindales and Manhattan's Grand Central Terminal with a dozen incendiary devices and 500 kilos of TNT. The holocaust was set to go off the following week, the day after Thanksgiving. Che Guevara was the head of Cuba's "Foreign Liberation Department" at the time.

A little perspective: for their March 2004 Madrid subway blasts, all 10 of them, that killed and maimed almost 2000 people, al-Qaida used a grand total of 100 kilos of TNT. Castro and Che's agents planned to set off five times that explosive power in the some of the  biggest department stores on earth, all packed to suffocation and pulsing with holiday cheer on the year's biggest shopping day.

A month earlier (during what came to be known as the Cuban Missile Crisis) Fidel Castro and Che Guevara had salivated over the prospect of a much more satisfying holocaust. "Say hello to my little friends!" they dreamt of yelling at the Yankee ?hyenas,? right before the mushroom clouds. But for the prudence of the Butcher of Budapest (Nikita Khrushchev) they might have pulled it off. Despite the diligent work of Camelot court scribes and their ever-eager acolytes in the MSM, Publishing and Hollywood, most serious analysts conclude that Fidel and Che's genocidal fantasy was a much bigger factor in Khrushchev's decision to yank the missiles from Cuba than Kennedy's utterly bogus bluster, threats and "blockade."

"The solutions to the world's problems lie behind the Iron Curtain," stressed Ernesto ?Che" Guevara who often signed his correspondence with the moniker "Stalin II". "If the nuclear missiles had remained we would have fired them against the heart of the U.S. including New York City," he boasted. "The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims."

But don't misinterpret Che Guevara?s bluster with actual bravery. His stock in trade was the mass-murder of defenseless men and boys?bound and gagged is how he demanded his victims.  On Oct. 8 1967, upon finally encountering armed and determined enemies, Che quickly dropped his fully-loaded weapons and whimpered: "Don't Shoot! I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!"

Che Guevara's regime also shattered - through executions, jailings, mass larceny and exile - virtually every family on the island of Cuba. Many opponents of the Cuban regime qualify as the longest-suffering political prisoners in modern history, having suffered prison camps, forced labor and torture chambers for a period three times as long in Che Guevara's Gulag as Alexander Solzhenytzin suffered in Stalin's Gulag. But don?t bother looking for any History Channel, NPR, or 20/20 interviews with these heroes. They were victims? of the Left?s premier poster boys.

The regime Che Guevara co-founded stole the savings and property of 6.4 million citizens, made refugees of 20 per cent of the population from a nation formerly deluged with immigrants and whose citizens had achieved a higher standard of living than those residing in half of Europe.

Under Che Guevara's rule "Change" indeed came to Cuba.

Imagine, say, Huckabee campaign volunteers in Possum Gulch Arkansas, discovered with their offices displaying posters of David Duke -- who despite his looney ravings has killed no one, and who, as far as I know, has never advocated the nuclear extermination of the U.S. population. Do you think there might be a media hullabaloo, with the attendant extortion rackets by "Civil Rights leaders"? Do you think that a campaign spokersperson's lame exculpation of these Duke posters as "inappropriate" would suffice? We all know better. The orgy of self-flagellation, groveling, hoop-jumping, and whimpering (not that they would have gotten it) demanded from any Republican candidate would have made Dom Imus' recent antics look like Ollie North in front of the Iran-Contra hearings.

The Duke comparison may be apt in more than one way. What might Ernesto ?Che? Guevara have thought of Obama?s campaign and his campaign workers (volunteers and otherwise)? His writings and utterings give a strong clue:

"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving";
"South American peasants are simply little animals";
"Mexicans are a rabble of illiterate Indians."

Unfortunately, it looks as though Obama supporters think more of Che than he would about them.


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Humberto Fontova is the author of Exposing the Real Che Guevara and the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him. Visit www.hfontova.com

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Re: Obama's Supporters Say "Viva Che!"
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 01:11:43 PM »
<<Compared to Che Guevara, Ahmadinejad sounds like the Dalai Lama.>>

So what, compared to Che Guevara, George W. Bush acts like Atilla the Hun.

<<But don't misinterpret Che Guevara?s bluster with actual bravery. His stock in trade was the mass-murder of defenseless men and boys?bound and gagged is how he demanded his victims. >>

ROTFLMFAO.  Where'd ya find that one?  Did J. Edgar Hoover make that up at the same time as he made up the whopper about fire-bombing Macy's and Gimbels'?  Cannibalism!!  J. Edgar forgot cannibalism! 

Fidel outlived 14 CIA assassination attempts, beat back (with Che Guevara) the U.S. assault on the Bay of Pigs and sent armies to fight racist South African proxies in Angola, while Che Guevara went on to give his life in the fight to liberate Bolivia from fascism.  The Amerikkkan fascists can't stop these guys or what they stand for, but they sure as hell can invent great stories about them. 

However, I know that Obama's a fucking phony for sure.  The real thing woulda said, "Yeah?  They got Che posters? Awesome, I want 'em in MY office too!"

Same thing happened with Bill Clinton.  When he let Lani Guinere go, sacrificed to fascist complaints, I knew the kind of double-talking fake had been elected.  Guinere was a true icon of change - - she'd been to Cuba to cut the cane with the Venceremos Brigade.  Those were all the credentials she needed, but for Bill, they were too much.

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 08:31:00 PM »
.........and sent armies to fight racist South African proxies in Angola, while Che Guevara went on to give his life in the fight to liberate Bolivia from fascism. 

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEEDD103EF932A35751C0A961948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

February 1, 1987

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''The most beautiful and wonderful thing,'' the trim military officer in combat fatigues and a jaunty red beret says, ''is for a Cuban to do his internationalist duty.''

Capt. Pedro Valdez Alfonso, a graduate of Soviet and Polish military academies, is one of an estimated 30,000 Cuban troops stationed in Angola to protect that country's Marxist Government. For the last decade, the Cuban military presence has bedeviled American policy in the region with the fear that the Cubans could hopscotch south from Angola to Namibia, and eventually to South Africa.

A 10-day trip to Angola last November, including interviews with Cuban soldiers and civilians in four cities, offered a rare glimpse to an outsider of Cuba's presence in this nation of eight million people. Although the visit was closely supervised by Cuban and Angolan authorities, the dimensions of Cuba's involvement were apparent. Moscow and East Berlin affirm their support for the Marxist Government by educating Angolans in their countries and providing some military personnel to Angola. The Cuban soldiers are more deeply entrenched, and prospects for their departure seem remote. International interest in Angola extends back to 1975, when Cuba first airlifted thousands of troops across the South Atlantic to the seaside capital of Luanda. Indeed, some say the Cuban airlift was the rock on which American-Soviet detente foundered. The Portuguese flag was coming down after 500 years of colonial rule, and Angola's Marxist guerrillas, with Cuban backing, were establishing an independent ''people's republic.''

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..........Two years ago, the United States brokered a proposal for a step-by-step Cuban withdrawal from Angola in return for a step-by-step South African withdrawal from South-West Africa, as a precursor to independence. Talks broke off, however, after a South African commando unit attempted to destroy the Chevron complex. A few months later, the United States lost its ''honest broker'' status in the eyes of the Angolans by giving aid to Savimbi's Unita forces. That decision created a paradoxical, and still unresolved, situation: Cuban troops are in the position of protecting an oil complex, owned in part by Americans, while the United States aids the attackers. ...

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ANGOLA FEELS THE effects of the Cuban presence in a second, no less important, arena -civilian life. For a society still trying to recover from the departure of 90 percent of its white population at independence, the contingent of Cuban teachers, construction workers and doctors, estimated at 9,000, provides desperately needed skilled assistance.

Cuban civilians working in Angola seem drawn by an amalgam of political zeal, a desire to help others and, undoubtedly, the knowledge that Angolan service looks good on a resume in Havana.
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Despite the Angolan commitment to pure Marxist ideology, the oft-drawn caricature of the Angolans as puppets of their Cuban and Soviet masterminds does not entirely square with the facts. Aid has won the Cubans considerable influence in Angola, but not control. When Angolan authorities detained a group of American reporters who had photographed bomb damage at Cabinda airport, thought to be the work of Unita guerrillas, the Cuban officer chaperoning the group was unable to win its release. Relief came four hours later when the provincial commissar, an Angolan, was found; he ruled in the group's favor.

In another incident, a representative of the Cuban Embassy tried to introduce me to two Cuban doctors working at Luanda's Americo Boavida Hospital. The Angolan hospital director had been contacted in advance, but when the Cuban Embassy official arrived, the director dismissed him with a brusque wave of the hand. The two Cuban doctors were found in a corridor, but they said they could not give interviews without permission from the Angolan director. As he left the hospital, the Cuban official complained about the ''bad manners'' of the Angolans.

Despite these day-to-day frictions, the Cubans and the Russians can find little fault with the Angolans' political orientation. A red machete and wheel - the Angolan version of the hammer and sickle - is emblazoned at the top of Jornal de Angola, Luanda's only daily paper. Front-page headlines in one recent issue included ''Comrade President Hails M. Gorbachev and D. Ortega,'' ''Party Delegation to Anniversary of Sandinista Front,'' and ''Bulgaria Offers Donation to Angola.''

The affection for the East starts at the top. During the 1960's, President dos Santos, a soft-spoken intelligent man, studied petroleum engineering in the Soviet Union, and he was married for a time to a Soviet woman.

If there is a potentially discomfiting aspect for the Angolans in their relationship with Cuba and the Soviet Union, it is in their avowed interest in strengthening Angola's trade and diplomatic relations with the West. But some businessmen here joke that the long-term goal is merely ''to use capitalism to pay for socialism.''



Something like our mission in Iraq only with Communism as the goal rather than democracy.

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2008, 10:09:04 AM »

<<Something like our mission in Iraq only with Communism as the goal rather than democracy.>>

No, the Cubans didn't bomb Angolan cities and kill hundreds of thousands of civilians and there were no torture chambers.

Gotta love that Fidel Castro.  God bless him, and thanks for posting that, plane.

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2008, 11:12:45 AM »
"The U.S. is the great enemy of mankind!" raved Ernesto "Che" Guevara in 1961. "Against those hyenas there is no option but extermination. We will bring the war to the imperialist enemies' very home, to his places of work and recreation. The imperialist enemy must feel like a hunted animal wherever he moves. Thus we'll destroy him! We must keep our hatred against them (the U.S.) alive and fan it to paroxysms!"

I am OUTRAGED at this deliberate distortion of the truth.  This is NOT a quote from Che Guevara.  It is obviously just something you cut and pasted from a Michael Tee post.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2008, 11:17:05 AM »
Ain't it the truth!  My lawyers have been after his estate and its lawyers for years over this.

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2008, 11:26:10 AM »
Ain't it the truth!  My lawyers have been after his estate and its lawyers for years over this.

ROFLMAO!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2008, 12:22:19 PM »
Che's foray in Bolivia was perhaps brave and geopolitically correct, being as Bolivia borders on seven countries, but it was pragmatically stupid. The Bolivians in that part of Bolivia were not amenable to overthrowing the then leftist government of Bolivia, and they turned him in. It was the Cuban guerrilla version of the Iraq War. Poorly planned and ineffective, doomed to failure. Che should have gone elsewhere.

What Che and Obama seem to have in common is merely that they shared a hopeful image of the future. Obama did not get all those donations by preaching the destruction of the oligarchy. If he tries to change things even as little as JFK did, he needs to seriously beef up his security, lest he face the fate of JFK. I think we can say the same for Hillary. There are thousands of Rushified, irrational Hillary haters out there.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2008, 12:29:04 PM »
<<If he tries to change things even as little as JFK did, he needs to seriously beef up his security, lest he face the fate of JFK. I think we can say the same for Hillary. >>

They both know that and that's why there isn't going to be any change.

<<There are thousands of Rushified, irrational Hillary haters out there.>>

But they'd probably be the LAST ones called upon to do the job.  At most, one or two of them would come in handy as fall guys.

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2008, 12:35:18 PM »
But they'd probably be the LAST ones called upon to do the job.  At most, one or two of them would come in handy as fall guys.

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There are so many of these that at least a couple could be found that might be competent. But I agree, they would make excellent fall guys. "Patsies" as Oswald called himself.

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2008, 12:59:52 PM »
>>There are so many of these that at least a couple could be found that might be competent.<<

Don't you just love the paranoia? It's almost like they hope it will happen. It would fuel their hatred for themeselves and America for the rest of their lives. As if they need any more incentive. Pitiful.

As of right now it looks like Mrs. Clinton is poised for a comeback anyway. You know the Clinton's. If we're talking about making people assume room temperature, they won't need to look very far for a patsy. They're flush with them. Berger, Brown, Currie, the Fosters.

So Maybe B. Hussein Obama really should watch his back. With so many leftists out there so full of hate who need an outlet, and Clinton loyalist who'll stop at nothing, maybe he should be careful.




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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2008, 01:22:32 PM »
Of course, it's "paranoid" to think that anyone taking the country in a new direction is at risk.

JFK, unfortunately, was killed by a lone-nut gunman, acting alone.  As was Martin Luther King.  As was Robert F. Kennedy.

What's wrong with the paranoid idiots?  Have they no faith in the power of coincidence?

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2008, 01:27:56 PM »
George Wallace was also shot by a lone nut, as was Reagan.

Of course, we can never be sure how lone said nuts might be.

There is always a chance that a US president will be shot at, and perhaps killed.

McKinley, T. Roosevelt, FDR, JFK, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, Olebush were all shot at. Two of seven fatalities.
That's a pretty high percentage, and I hardly think it's paranoid to think that it won't happen in the XXI Century as well.

MLK, RFK and George Wallace were all shot at.Two of the three were killed

They were not all killed, but that is just a matter of luck and marksmanship.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 02:25:38 PM »
This is paranoid:

>>There are thousands of Rushified, irrational Hillary haters out there.<<

But like I said, the left is obviously full of paranoid delusional folks filled to the brim with hate. Take Berkley for example. I'm sure it would be easy to convince one of those nuts to bump off Mrs. Clinton because she's not sufficiently rabid about the war.

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2008, 03:07:20 PM »
This is paranoid:

There are thousands of Rushified, irrational Hillary haters out there.<<

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This is a true statement. It is not paranoid. Listen to any call-in session on Rush or Hannity and you will hear these kooks.

Most of them are harmless and would not shoot even Hillary.

But it would only take one. This is hardly paranoid.

The fact that there are other crazed individuals on the other end of the political spectrum does not cancel out the rightwing kooks, it adds to them, in the same way that a shot of cheap bourbon does not cancel out a shot of expensive Scotch.
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