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McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« on: February 20, 2008, 09:20:34 PM »
For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk
Andrea Mohin/The New York Times

Senator John McCain conferred with his lawyers before testifying in January 1991 before the Senate Ethics Committee regarding his involvement with Charles Keating and the Lincoln Savings and Loan.

   
By JIM RUTENBERG, MARILYN W. THOMPSON, DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and STEPHEN LABATON
Published: February 21, 2008

WASHINGTON ? Early in Senator John McCain?s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.

Vicki Iseman at an awards dinner in 2004.

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, in his offices and aboard a client?s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself ? instructing staff members to block the woman?s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist?s clients, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.

Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity.

It had been just a decade since an official favor for a friend with regulatory problems had nearly ended Mr. McCain?s political career by ensnaring him in the Keating Five scandal. In the years that followed, he reinvented himself as the scourge of special interests, a crusader for stricter ethics and campaign finance rules, a man of honor chastened by a brush with shame.

But the concerns about Mr. McCain?s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career. Even as he has vowed to hold himself to the highest ethical standards, his confidence in his own integrity has sometimes seemed to blind him to potentially embarrassing conflicts of interest.

Mr. McCain promised, for example, never to fly directly from Washington to Phoenix, his hometown, to avoid the impression of self-interest because he sponsored a law that opened the route nearly a decade ago. But like other lawmakers, he often flew on the corporate jets of business executives seeking his support, including the media moguls Rupert Murdoch, Michael R. Bloomberg and Lowell W. Paxson, Ms. Iseman?s client. (Last year he voted to end the practice.)

Mr. McCain helped found a nonprofit group to promote his personal battle for tighter campaign finance rules. But he later resigned as its chairman after news reports disclosed that the group was tapping the same kinds of unlimited corporate contributions he opposed, including those from companies seeking his favor. He has criticized the cozy ties between lawmakers and lobbyists, but is relying on corporate lobbyists to donate their time running his presidential race and recently hired a lobbyist to run his Senate office.

?He is essentially an honorable person,? said William P. Cheshire, a friend of Mr. McCain who as editorial page editor of The Arizona Republic defended him during the Keating Five scandal. ?But he can be imprudent.?

Mr. Cheshire added, ?That imprudence or recklessness may be part of why he was not more astute about the risks he was running with this shady operator,? Charles Keating, whose ties to Mr. McCain and four other lawmakers tainted them in the savings and loan debacle.

During his current campaign for the Republican presidential nomination, Mr. McCain has played down his attacks on the corrupting power of money in politics, aware that the stricter regulations he championed are unpopular in his party. When the Senate overhauled lobbying and ethics rules last year, Mr. McCain was not among the leaders in the debate.

With his nomination this year all but certain, though, he is reminding voters again of his record of reform. His campaign has already begun comparing his credentials with those of Senator Barack Obama, a Democratic contender who has made lobbying and ethics rules a centerpiece of his own pitch to voters.

?I would very much like to think that I have never been a man whose favor can be bought,? Mr. McCain wrote about his Keating experience in his 2002 memoir, ?Worth the Fighting For.? ?From my earliest youth, I would have considered such a reputation to be the most shameful ignominy imaginable. Yet that is exactly how millions of Americans viewed me for a time, a time that I will forever consider one of the worst experiences of my life.?

A drive to expunge the stain on his reputation in time turned into a zeal to cleanse Washington as well. The episode taught him that ?questions of honor are raised as much by appearances as by reality in politics,? he wrote, ?and because they incite public distrust they need to be addressed no less directly than we would address evidence of expressly illegal corruption.?
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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 01:43:29 AM »
It's going top be a long year
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Obama Discloses New Rezko Details
Obama Toured His Now-Home With Rezko Who Was Under Investigation At The Time
By RHONDA SCHWARTZ and JUSTIN ROOD

Feb. 20, 2008?

Watchdog groups are questioning why it took Sen. Barack Obama more than a year to disclose additional details of his dealings with indicted fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko.

While Rezko was known to be under federal investigation, Obama toured a Chicago-area home with him to get his opinion of the property, Obama's campaign revealed to Bloomberg News for a story published Monday. The politician later bought the home, with Rezko's help, who bought the adjoining lot in what was effectively a package deal.

Until then, Obama has professed trouble recalling such details during interviews with reporters.

Responding to questions about Rezko and the home sale last month, the Obama campaign repeatedly cited the candidate's on-the-record statements: "I don't recall exactly" conversations about the house with Rezko; "I am not clear" how Rezko decided to join in the purchase; and "I may have mentioned to him the name of a [developer] and he may at that point have contacted that person."

Pressed for more details, the campaign declined to provide any that were not then part of the public record.

The junior senator from Illinois has been answering questions on Rezko's involvement in the house purchase since news of it broke in 2006. In the 2005 deal, Obama purchased a house for $300,000 less than its owners were asking, and Rezko simultaneously bought the adjacent lot from the same seller at full price. Obama denies there was anything unusual about the price disparity. He says the price on the house was dropped because it had been on the market for some time but that the price for the adjacent land remained high because there was another offer.

Obama called it "bone-headed" to have engaged in financial dealings with the wealthy Chicago political operative, particularly as federal agents were reported to have been investigating Rezko for alleged corruption. He has also said he was "confident that everything was handled ethically and above board."

The new revelations appear to indicate Obama had involved Rezko at an earlier stage of his home buying process than was previously known, and left many wondering why he had not shared the information sooner.

"Why did they wait so long to disclose this?" asked Jay Stewart of the Illinois-based Better Government Association, which combats corruption, waste and fraud in government.

"If you run as an agent of change, a reformer...that's holding yourself to a pretty high standard," said Stewart. "But when you're laying out that kind of rhetoric...it makes sense for people to say, 'Let's look at what you've done. Let's see if your rhetoric matches with reality.'"

"Where is Sen. Obama getting his media advice?" wondered Cindy Canary, executive director for the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform.

"Is Obama following his instincts or the advice of a high-paid consultant?" she asked. "If it's a high-paid consulatant, maybe he should follow his own instincts... This is something that Sen. Obama should have put forward from the get-go."

Asked if there was a reason the campaign was mum on the Rezko home tour for more than a year after news of his involvement in Obama's home purchase broke, spokesman Bill Burton said, "No."

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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 04:28:07 AM »
Very long.  Ugh....
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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 09:29:23 AM »
There are real issues in this campaign: healthcare, education, the stupid war and how to get out of Iraq, energy policy, the loss of democracy because of crap like the Electoral College, privacy, secrecy in government, competence, illegal immigration and undocumented workers. But it looks like this campaign will be argued on three things of little importance: scandals, fear and hope.
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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 10:48:15 AM »
There are real issues in this campaign: healthcare, education, the stupid war and how to get out of Iraq, energy policy, the loss of democracy because of crap like the Electoral College, privacy, secrecy in government, competence, illegal immigration and undocumented workers. But it looks like this campaign will be argued on three things of little importance: scandals, fear and hope.


Yes , but that is what 3DHS is all about , bring here for discussion the things that you think really make a diffrence.


I think that Rush Limbaugh reads XO posts , when he is makeing his plan for the day.

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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 12:07:38 PM »
XO makes a good point. The problem is that it WORKS. People tend to gravitate around the gossipy and/or sensationalistic stuff and not real SUBSTANTIVE issues like healthcare, Iraq, etc.

Too bad. Yet another example of a soundbite generation?
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 12:27:46 PM »
As a member and officer of the local Mercedes-Benz Club, you can see this trend toward emotion over substance in Mercedes advertising over the years.

Mercedes used to be the best engineered car in the world. The 1980-85 W123 models (300 Diesels) were absolutely bulletproof, They are reliable, durable and easy to work on. Other than the radio (which is easy to replace cheaply these days) and the AC (Germany is airconditioned, and they always made the damned things far too complicated and hard to work on: any Hyundai has a better AC than any Mercedes), there is really no feature that Mercedes did not engineer for reliability and durability.

Nowadays, they sell snob appeal. Lexus makes a superior auto for less money, but it is not a Mercedes. There is not the cache built up over decades. The brand has suffered because the guy who buys a car for snob appeal will sell it just because it looks outdated, so reliability is no longer stressed as much in Sindelfingen, because their base customer will trade it in after five or six years no matter what, rather than drive it for the 300,000, 500,000 miles that the older models would last for.

Image counts for more than quality when a majority of emotionally-guided stupid people choose image over quality.
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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 01:00:33 PM »
Perhaps Mercedes should usurp the head thumping V8 commercials.

Imagine a rainy night on a highway, tow truck hitching up the chevy.

Whooomp i could have had a mercedes.



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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 03:30:55 PM »
Perhaps Mercedes should usurp the head thumping V8 commercials.

Imagine a rainy night on a highway, tow truck hitching up the chevy.

Whooomp i could have had a mercedes.

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That sounds like a perfect ad to lose the traditional Mercedes customer. If they could have afforded a Mercedes, then it must be a comon cheapo car.

People are not drawn to Mercedes because they want cheapo common cars.

As a rule, expensive car ads have classical music or jazz, ads for cheap cars yell at you.
Ford has this asshole rap commercial "You gotta ride it, ride it" that seems to be directed at people that could not afford even a used Ford.

The Mercedes ads seem to be selling cars, but the marketing department has taken the design out of the hands of engineering, and more's the pity.
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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 04:18:39 PM »
There is no reason design and reliability can not coexist.


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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 05:30:05 PM »
There is no reason design and reliability can not coexist.

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This is true, but only so long as price is not an issue. But Mercedes is competing with Lexus, and an equivalent Lexus already is a superior car in everything but snob value by as much as $10K. The Japanese are more willing to bend when the dollar heads south as well, so Mercedes skimps on durability, especially with regard to super expensive electronics. Not as much as Land Rover (whose quality is  abysmal lately) or VW. BMW has been quite a bit better in quality standards (Consumers Reports, the one that really counts) as well.

The JD Powers surveys only cover the first 12 months. 12 months of reliability is far too little to expect from a $50K + car.

If Mercedes wanted to please their customers, all they would need to do is give the same warranty one gets with  Hyundai or KIA: 10 years or 100,000 miles.

My point is that when advertising starts to be more of a factor than engineering, quality declines.
When image is more important than reality, pretty much everything suffers.
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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 05:35:19 PM »
If Mercedes wanted to please their customers, all they would need to do is give the same warranty one gets with  Hyundai or KIA: 10 years or 100,000 miles.

Hey, when my Ford hits 100,000, I'll just be getting the first scheduled tune up.
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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 11:44:00 PM »
Cars do not really need a tune up anymore. electronic ignition is trouble free most of the time and the plugs last a long long time. That is probably all the will do to tune your Ford up. Perhaps check the O2 sensor and some other electronics.

One thing I have noticed about Diesels is the mufflers and exhaust system does not rust out at all. My 85 wagon has 219K miles and the original system. There are no holes anywhere. The engine runs cooler and throws off less water vapor, and the soot coats the inside of the pipes.

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Re: McCain at risk over female lobbyist
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 02:31:03 AM »
So basically, the NY Times is running a FRONT PAGE story, that's referencing how someone THINKS McCain, MIGHT have had some type of affair.  No evidence, no nothing of any shred of support, but it lands on the front page of the NYTimes-Enquirer

That's the jist of the story, right?

I hear there are thousands of people that think the Clinton's had Vince Foster killed.  Why isn't the NYTimes-Enquirer running with that?

And people wonder why the crediblity & ratings of the Times and MSM keeps getting lower and lower
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 04:03:13 PM »
I hear there are thousands of people that think the Clinton's had Vince Foster killed.  Why isn't the NYTimes-Enquirer running with that?
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I think that has already been done. I doubt that Hillary was holding a weapon, and it's very old news. You might as well ask why they don't reinvestigate Richard Nixon.

You don't like the NY Times, don't read it.

I agree with it more than you do, but I don;t read it much, so I know from experience that this is not a difficult chore.
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