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More on the NYTInquirer
« on: February 23, 2008, 11:43:25 AM »
It tells you just how egregious the Times was for running it's story (and Lanya, in so quickly reposting it here in the saloon) when it's being questioned/criticized by the big 3, including the infamous CBS

Nets Lead w/ NYT Hit on McCain, Question Journalistic Standards

     All three broadcast network evening newscasts led Thursday night with the New York Times story alleging an improper relationship by John McCain with a female lobbyist, but questions about the journalistic standards of the newspaper were given as much consideration as the allegations against McCain. All three ran a soundbite from Rush Limbaugh denouncing the paper while ABC and CBS featured establishment media observers who castigated the Times for basing a story on the feelings of unnamed sources: Ken Auletta on ABC and Tom Rosenstiel on CBS.

     "John McCain began his day answering questions about a story in the New York Times alleging an improper relationship eight years ago with a female lobbyist," ABC anchor Charles Gibson announced before cautioning: "The story had no evidence the relationship was romantic -- only unnamed sources reportedly claiming they were convinced it might be." With "Fit to Print?" on screen, Gibson set up a second story on how the Times article "raised as many questions about the paper and what standards of proof it would need to publish such a story as it did about the Senator." Reporter Dan Harris began: "Today, conservative talk radio hosts accused the New York Times of a supremely cynical slam job."

     Over on CBS, anchor Katie Couric relayed how McCain's "supporters and others are questioning the Times' journalism and motivations." In the subsequent story, Tom Rosenstiel, of the Project for Excellence in Journalism, suggested: "So this is an odd situation where anonymous sources are not alleging something. They're alleging their feelings about something." Reporter Nancy Cordes noted how "conservative commentators rushed to his defense. Even Rush Limbaugh took a break from bashing McCain to take on another favored target."

     Later, Bob Schieffer illustrated how out of touch he is with conservatives as he marveled at how "there were some people in the McCain campaign who actually winced when he was endorsed for the Republican nomination by the New York Times. They thought that would set off the Republican right, and, boy, did it ever. It looked like he would never find a way to get those people to warm to him." But now, "look what happened today. Here's Rush Limbaugh coming to his defense, Laura Ingraham..."

     NBC anchor Brian Williams led with the charges and how attention turned to the newspaper's agenda: "It's a story about a female lobbyist in Washington and her relationship, business and perhaps otherwise, with Senator John McCain. It's a story about influence, appearances and propriety. But as this day went on, it was about more than that. It was about the timing and sourcing of a negative story on page one of a very influential newspaper."

     Kelly O'Donnell reported that "the Times found itself the target of criticism today. Rush Limbaugh, usually harsh on McCain, was now on his side."
     # ABC's World News: "The story is not the story. The story is that this paper endorsed McCain, sat on this story, and now puts it out just prior to McCain wrapping up the nomination."

     # CBS Evening News: "The New York Times endorsed that candidate while they sat on this story, and now with utter predictability, they are trying to destroy him."

     # NBC Nightly News: "The story is that this paper endorsed McCain, sat on this story, and now puts it out just prior to McCain wrapping up the nomination."

(excerpts found at link below)

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Re: More on the NYTInquirer
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2008, 12:11:28 PM »
The Old Gray Bimbo
By JAMES TARANTO
February 22, 2008


A memorable event in the history of contemporary sex scandals led to the creation of an amusing prize:

The Bimbo Award recognizes dumb public comments made during the year. The criterion for nomination is that the speaker causes the listener to believe exactly the opposite of what is said. The award is a reminder that repeating negative words only reinforces the negative message as well as misses the opportunity to convey the right message to the reader or listener.

The Bimbo Award was created by Merrie Spaeth, former Director of Media for President Reagan at the White House, memorializing the protest of a young lady whose tryst with a well known evangelist some years ago made news around the world. Her comment, "I Am Not A Bimbo," became the headline in scores of newspapers and a cover of People Magazine in 1987.
From Editor & Publisher comes our nomination for this month's Bimbo Award:

Appearing on NPR's "All Things Considered" [Thursday], Bill Keller, executive editor of The New York Times said its John McCain/lobbyist bombshell was "not a gotcha story about some kind of quid pro quo. . . . We don't know if there was a quid or a quo in this case. What we do know is that people very close to him, who watched him day after day, were worried enough by his behavior that they felt that he was endangering his career."

Ponder this, and you will find that it is wonderful on many levels. First, of course, there is something satisfying about the reversal of roles. Instead of a figure in a real scandal protesting that he is not guilty, we have a scandal-mongering newspaperman defending a substanceless report about a supposed scandal, protesting that he and his colleagues are not engaging in "gotcha" journalism.

To be more precise, what Keller says is that the McCain report was "not a gotcha story." In a sense, that is true--it was not a "gotcha story" in that it didn't "get" anything. The Times merely printed a bunch of rumors without bothering (or being able) to find out whether there was anything to them.

Here is Keller's explanation for why a story with such a minuscule fact-to-rumor ratio was newsworthy:

"He [McCain] came back from Vietnam a hero, entered into public life and then was felled by the Keating Five scandal, if you read his books, it was clearly a humiliating event for him. And he subsequently built his political life on themes of redemption, reform, you know, rectitude, if you will--and became the scourge of lobbyists, the champion of campaign finance reform, and so on, in Washington.
"Yet, according to some people who knew him best, he can be surprisingly careless about his reputation, and that's what I think this, his relationship with this particular lobbyist illustrates, although I think there's a lot of other illustrations as well in the piece."

In other words, McCain has put forward a narrative about his own personal and political character--a narrative that "some people who know him best" think is at odds with the truth. What is newsworthy about the Times story, Keller seems to be saying, is that it lets the public know that not everyone in a position to know buys into the McCain narrative.

The New York Times, by publishing this story, is putting itself in precisely the position of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth vis-?-vis John Kerry. As we've analyzed many times before (most notably here), Kerry offered a narrative that centered on his having been a Vietnam war hero. "Yet, according to some people who knew him best," this narrative was at odds with the truth.

We learned this not from news reports but from the Swift Boat Veterans, a political advocacy group, which built a case against Kerry in part on claims that were unsubstantiated because unverifiable (he faked his medals) and in part on facts that were a matter of public record (he slandered his fellow servicemen after returning home). Because of the latter element, there was more substance to the Swift Boat Veterans' attack on Kerry than to the Times's attack on (or "story about") McCain.

The Swift Boat Veterans were a political group with open political goals. By contrast, the Times (at least on its news pages) is supposed to report the news, not take sides. Yet the Times and the rest of the mainstream media, having for the most part uncritically accepted the Kerry narrative, sided with him when the Swift Boat Veterans came forward.

News organizations inevitably have an effect on the events they cover, but good newsmen are circumspect about the line between reporting and political advocacy. The Times's treatment of this McCain story suggests that the desire to make an impact overcame that circumspection. And it seems to have led to an epiphany for McCain, the longtime media sweetheart. As the Times itself reports in a follow-up story:

Mr. McCain said he knew nothing about an account in The Times from John Weaver, a former top McCain strategist and now an informal campaign adviser, who told the newspaper that he met with Ms. Iseman at Union Station in Washington at the time of Mr. McCain's first run for president in 1999 and told her to stay away from the senator. "I don't know anything about it," Mr. McCain said. "Since it was in The New York Times, I don't take it at face value."

Not long ago, Rudy Giuliani was ribbing then-rival McCain for having been endorsed by the Times; and back when Giuliani's campaign was still a going concern, he tried appealing to the right by making a target of the media and especially the Times. This experience may serve McCain well by leading him to a more realistic view of the role that the mainstream media, and especially the Times, have come to play in American politics. If he internalizes the experience, he will understand that the old gray lady is not his friend and at least sometimes is his enemy.


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Re: More on the NYTInquirer
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 03:33:24 PM »
Well, well, the friendly folks at the NYT are shocked and dismayed to find that their fellow liberals have learned from their past mistakes and actually realize that people can't be fooled by unsubstantiated allegations anymore (no matter how much forgery is created to support them).  After all, the formula is not to REPUDIATE a lie - it is to repeat it over and over until it sticks.  So they will wait, patiently, until the left controls the government.  Then you will see a lot of people suddenly out looking for work.  Only those who will support the lies will remain. 

Call it "political cleansing."
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 03:37:09 PM »
Reasonable & logical deductions, Pooch     8)
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 07:52:22 PM »
The only thing that wingnuts hate more than Hillary is the NY Times. Now that it has attacked McCain, they can finally support him, even though he disagrees with deporting 12 million Mexicans and rendering polar bears for their fat.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 09:07:49 PM »
The only thing that wingnuts hate more than Hillary is the NY Times. Now that it has attacked McCain, they can finally support him, even though he disagrees with deporting 12 million Mexicans and rendering polar bears for their fat.

*snicker*  Coming from the general of who can't-find-enough-hateful-&-derrogatory adjectives to throw at Bush & Cheney, that's saying something, Xo.  Did you come up with that bit of assessment all by yourself?  Funny how I can't seem to find any commentary from those supposed "wingnuts" aimed at Hillary & the Times that comes anywhere close to your verbal atrocities aimed at Bush.  Care to provide some, in your defense?  Couldn't possibly be this misplaced hate of yours has you seeing cross-eyed, as it relates to the actual topic of the Times and this latest story, vs your weak attempt at misidirection, could it?

Rendering polar bears??      ::)
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2008, 09:12:24 PM »
Rendering polar bears??      ::)

Dude, major ingredient in Eskimo Pies.  Didn't ya know?   :D
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 11:42:36 PM »
>>Dude, major ingredient in Eskimo Pies.  Didn't ya know? <<

Well, there's Polar Bear in them, but the main ingredient is, well ... Eskimo.


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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 03:11:48 AM »
Rendering polar bears??      ::)

Dude, major ingredient in Eskimo Pies.  Didn't ya know?    :D

I sit ....errummmm.... corrected     :P
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 09:11:17 AM »
>>Dude, major ingredient in Eskimo Pies.  Didn't ya know? <<

Well, there's Polar Bear in them, but the main ingredient is, well ... Eskimo.



Gotta admire how them native types never waste anything . . .
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 02:47:05 PM »
I always thought the Eskimos made the Eskimo pies out of polar bears.

Van Kamps Pork and Beans aren't make of Van Kamp, after all.

Campbell's soups are not made from Campbells, either.

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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 06:18:05 PM »
Campbell's soups are not made from Campbells, either.

As far as YOU know . . .
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 06:28:00 PM »
As far as YOU know . . .

Especially if it's made by a MacDonald...
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2008, 06:49:13 PM »
As far as YOU know . . .

Especially if it's made by a MacDonald...

Oh yeah.  You got the Scottish clans thing by denotation, you got the fast-food thing (almost) by connotation, you got disgusting food no matter how ya look at it . . .   

That one was a masterpiece of wordplay!  :D
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2008, 06:52:32 PM »
That one was a masterpiece of wordplay!  :D

Can't be. I'm a Republican, so OBVIOUSLY I'm not nuanced enough for wordplay or humor.

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