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Damn Global Warming
« on: February 25, 2008, 07:53:56 PM »
Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age
Lorne Gunter, National Post 
Monday, February 25, 2008


Snow cover over North America and much of Siberia, Mongolia and China is greater than at any time since 1966.

The U.S. National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) reported that many American cities and towns suffered record cold temperatures in January and early February. According to the NCDC, the average temperature in January "was -0.3 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average."

China is surviving its most brutal winter in a century. Temperatures in the normally balmy south were so low for so long that some middle-sized cities went days and even weeks without electricity because once power lines had toppled it was too cold or too icy to repair them.

There have been so many snow and ice storms in Ontario and Quebec in the past two months that the real estate market has felt the pinch as home buyers have stayed home rather than venturing out looking for new houses.

In just the first two weeks of February, Toronto received 70 cm of snow, smashing the record of 66.6 cm for the entire month set back in the pre-SUV, pre-Kyoto, pre-carbon footprint days of 1950.

And remember the Arctic Sea ice? The ice we were told so hysterically last fall had melted to its "lowest levels on record? Never mind that those records only date back as far as 1972 and that there is anthropological and geological evidence of much greater melts in the past.

The ice is back.

Gilles Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa, says the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at this time last year.

OK, so one winter does not a climate make. It would be premature to claim an Ice Age is looming just because we have had one of our most brutal winters in decades.

But if environmentalists and environment reporters can run around shrieking about the manmade destruction of the natural order every time a robin shows up on Georgian Bay two weeks early, then it is at least fair game to use this winter's weather stories to wonder whether the alarmist are being a tad premature.

And it's not just anecdotal evidence that is piling up against the climate-change dogma.

According to Robert Toggweiler of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at Princeton University and Joellen Russell, assistant professor of biogeochemical dynamics at the University of Arizona -- two prominent climate modellers -- the computer models that show polar ice-melt cooling the oceans, stopping the circulation of warm equatorial water to northern latitudes and triggering another Ice Age (a la the movie The Day After Tomorrow) are all wrong.

"We missed what was right in front of our eyes," says Prof. Russell. It's not ice melt but rather wind circulation that drives ocean currents northward from the tropics. Climate models until now have not properly accounted for the wind's effects on ocean circulation, so researchers have compensated by over-emphasizing the role of manmade warming on polar ice melt.

But when Profs. Toggweiler and Russell rejigged their model to include the 40-year cycle of winds away from the equator (then back towards it again), the role of ocean currents bringing warm southern waters to the north was obvious in the current Arctic warming.

Last month, Oleg Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, shrugged off manmade climate change as "a drop in the bucket." Showing that solar activity has entered an inactive phase, Prof. Sorokhtin advised people to "stock up on fur coats."

He is not alone. Kenneth Tapping of our own National Research Council, who oversees a giant radio telescope focused on the sun, is convinced we are in for a long period of severely cold weather if sunspot activity does not pick up soon.

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850. Crops failed through killer frosts and drought. Famine, plague and war were widespread. Harbours froze, so did rivers, and trade ceased.

It's way too early to claim the same is about to happen again, but then it's way too early for the hysteria of the global warmers, too.


Welcome to the new Ice Age
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Re: Damn Global Warming
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2008, 09:06:13 PM »
Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age
Lorne Gunter, National Post 
Monday, February 25, 2008


Snow cover over North America and much of Siberia, Mongolia and China is greater than at any time since 1966.

The U.S. National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) reported that many American cities and towns suffered record cold temperatures in January and early February. According to the NCDC, the average temperature in January "was -0.3 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average."

China is surviving its most brutal winter in a century. Temperatures in the normally balmy south were so low for so long that some middle-sized cities went days and even weeks without electricity because once power lines had toppled it was too cold or too icy to repair them.

There have been so many snow and ice storms in Ontario and Quebec in the past two months that the real estate market has felt the pinch as home buyers have stayed home rather than venturing out looking for new houses.

In just the first two weeks of February, Toronto received 70 cm of snow, smashing the record of 66.6 cm for the entire month set back in the pre-SUV, pre-Kyoto, pre-carbon footprint days of 1950.

And remember the Arctic Sea ice? The ice we were told so hysterically last fall had melted to its "lowest levels on record? Never mind that those records only date back as far as 1972 and that there is anthropological and geological evidence of much greater melts in the past.

The ice is back.

Gilles Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa, says the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at this time last year.

OK, so one winter does not a climate make. It would be premature to claim an Ice Age is looming just because we have had one of our most brutal winters in decades.

But if environmentalists and environment reporters can run around shrieking about the manmade destruction of the natural order every time a robin shows up on Georgian Bay two weeks early, then it is at least fair game to use this winter's weather stories to wonder whether the alarmist are being a tad premature.

And it's not just anecdotal evidence that is piling up against the climate-change dogma.

According to Robert Toggweiler of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at Princeton University and Joellen Russell, assistant professor of biogeochemical dynamics at the University of Arizona -- two prominent climate modellers -- the computer models that show polar ice-melt cooling the oceans, stopping the circulation of warm equatorial water to northern latitudes and triggering another Ice Age (a la the movie The Day After Tomorrow) are all wrong.

"We missed what was right in front of our eyes," says Prof. Russell. It's not ice melt but rather wind circulation that drives ocean currents northward from the tropics. Climate models until now have not properly accounted for the wind's effects on ocean circulation, so researchers have compensated by over-emphasizing the role of manmade warming on polar ice melt.

But when Profs. Toggweiler and Russell rejigged their model to include the 40-year cycle of winds away from the equator (then back towards it again), the role of ocean currents bringing warm southern waters to the north was obvious in the current Arctic warming.

Last month, Oleg Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, shrugged off manmade climate change as "a drop in the bucket." Showing that solar activity has entered an inactive phase, Prof. Sorokhtin advised people to "stock up on fur coats."

He is not alone. Kenneth Tapping of our own National Research Council, who oversees a giant radio telescope focused on the sun, is convinced we are in for a long period of severely cold weather if sunspot activity does not pick up soon.

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850. Crops failed through killer frosts and drought. Famine, plague and war were widespread. Harbours froze, so did rivers, and trade ceased.

It's way too early to claim the same is about to happen again, but then it's way too early for the hysteria of the global warmers, too.


Welcome to the new Ice Age

You morons say the slightly correct crap constantly but the over all temp of the earth is going up and up and up every year.  Yes, there is still snow and yes, some places  will set record lows but the overall temp of the earth will continue to go up yearly.

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Re: Damn Global Warming
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2008, 10:55:27 PM »
>> ... but the over all temp of the earth is going up and up and up every year. <<

What is the ideal temperature of the Earth?

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Re: Damn Global Warming
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2008, 04:01:19 AM »

but the overall temp of the earth will continue to go up yearly.


Yes. So? As I understand it, the planet regularly goes through warming and cooling cycles. Frankly, even if the current warming cycle has been contributed to by humans, the notion that we're some how going to stop a cyclical shift in climate and preserve the planet just as it is and without longterm change is not only foolish, but arrogant. By all means, go stop the tide if you can.
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Re: Damn Global Warming
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 04:41:18 AM »
Science
Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling
Michael Asher (Blog) - February 26, 2008

World Temperatures according to the Hadley Center for Climate Prediction. Note the steep drop over the last year.Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here.  The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out nearly all the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.


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Re: Damn Global Warming
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 07:55:07 AM »
Yes, there is still snow and yes, some places  will set record lows but the overall temp of the earth will continue to go up yearly.

Guess not.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2008, 11:32:19 PM »


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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2008, 11:39:47 PM »
Sirs, have you read the book entitled "Collapse" by Jared Diamond?

In it he theorizes that one of the reasons that the Greenland colony of the Norse died out was because of a cooling period following the warmer period when Greenland was colonized.  It's very interesting and a well presented book.

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2008, 12:06:44 AM »
I'll endeavor to track it down.  Thanks for the heads up, Fat     :)
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Re: Damn Global Warming
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 09:10:23 PM »
Midwest Cleans Up After Record Snowfall
Mar 9, 2008

By MATT LEINGANG


COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Highway and utility crews worked overtime Sunday to recover from the huge storm that buried Ohio and other parts of the Midwest in snow and tore down power lines elsewhere.

More than 20 inches of snow fell from Friday through Saturday at Columbus, eclipsing the city's previous record of 15.3 inches set in February 1910, the National Weather Service said. Elsewhere 14 inches fell at Milan, Ind. Up to a foot fell in parts of Kentucky, Tennessee and Arkansas on Friday.

Many churches in the Columbus area canceled Sunday services because roads were so slippery.

Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, which shut down Saturday, reopened Sunday but flight delays and cancelations were expected as airlines tried to get their schedules back on track, spokesman Todd Payne said.

Delays also were expected at Port Columbus International Airport, where 90 percent of flights were canceled Saturday.

Ohio had one traffic death linked to the weather, and four men died while shoveling snow. Two traffic deaths were blamed on the storm in western New York state and one in Tennessee. Two people were killed Friday as tornadoes spun out of the eastern edge of the weather system in Florida.

The storm also made roads slippery and snow-covered in western New York and caused flooding that closed roads in other parts of the state. On Sunday, high wind and falling temperatures created brisk wind chills in much of the state.

Northern Maine also got heavy snow as the storm sped into Canada's Maritime Provinces, with 17.5 inches at St. Agatha, and 3 inches of rain fell at Robbinston in the state's eastern corner. A flood watch was in effect Sunday for wide areas of Maine but officials said there was no widespread flooding.

"We did dodge a bullet. We're just waiting for next shoe to drop," weather service hydrologist Tom Hawley said Sunday in Gray, Maine, just north of Portland, noting the potential for more rain this coming weekend.

At least 8,400 Vermont homes and businesses still had no power Sunday, down from a peak of some 20,000 during the storm Saturday, Central Vermont Public Service Corp. (CV) officials said. Repair crews were hampered by ice-covered roads and fallen trees.

Utility companies in southeastern Pennsylvania said Sunday they had restored power to most of the 80,000 customers who were blacked out Saturday by power lines snapped by wind and falling tree limbs.

More than 100,000 New Jersey homes and businesses lost power at the height of thunderstorms that boiled up along the eastern part of the weather system, and some commuter train routes into New York City were blocked by fallen trees, authorities said. Wind gusted to 65 mph in New Jersey, the weather service said.

In Maryland, the storm system's wind blew a ship away from its pier Saturday in Baltimore. Coast Guard Petty Officer 3rd Class Ayla Stevens said no one was injured when the car-carrier's mooring lines broke and the ship was pushed out into the city's harbor.



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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2008, 12:18:32 PM »


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Re: Damn Global Warming
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2008, 03:34:23 PM »
It's a record winter for snow; watch for slick roads

Total snowfall tops 80 inches for record

So far this snow season (through March 12) Green Bay has received 80.3 inches of snow. This is the first time in Green Bay?s modern-day weather history that more than 80 inches of snow has been measured (117 years of snowfall data). Normal seasonal snowfall is 53.1 inches, the National Weather Service in Ashwaubenon reported.

In the 24-hour period ending 6 a.m. today, 1.1 inches of snow had been received in the Green Bay area.


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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2008, 10:52:01 PM »
I saw that book in the bargain bin at Barnes & Nobles sirs, for something like $3.99 (considerably less than I paid, but I'm a sucker for a fancy cover).  If you can't find it and are still interested, pm me your contact info and I'll send you my copy.