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There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« on: November 02, 2006, 01:18:34 PM »
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-just-gets-better.html

It just gets better
Thursday, November 02, 2006

President of National Association of Evangelicals accused of 3-year sexual relationship with gay hooker, and of taking drugs
by John in DC - 11/02/2006 11:03:00 AM

And he's virulently anti-gay. This guy was on TIME's list of the 25 most influential evangelicals in America. It doesn't get any bigger than this. And he's from Colorado. Wonder what Marilyn Musgrave has to say about this?

From 9News in Denver:
A gay man and admitted male escort claims he has had an ongoing sexual relationship with a well-known Evangelical pastor from Colorado Springs.

Mike Jones told '9 Wants to Know' Investigative Reporter Paula Woodward he has had a "sexual business" relationship with Pastor Ted Haggard for the past three years.

Haggard is the founder and senior leader of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. The church has 14,000 members.

He is also president of the National Association of Evangelicals, an organization that represents millions of people.

Haggard is married with five children and an outspoken critic of gay marriage....

Jones started talking to 9 Wants to Know two months ago. He claims Haggard has been paying him for sex over the past three years, even though Haggard preaches that homosexuality is a sin.

Jones also claims Haggard used methamphetamine in his presence on several occasions....

Former NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw profiled Haggard in 2005 in a series on mega-churches. Haggard was also listed by Time magazine as one of the 25 most influential Evangelicals in America last year.


He's gonna deny this, of course. Being gay and all, but most hookers cover their tracks. Smoking meth and having sex? Ok. It just gets better for the GOP and their fundie friends, doesn't it.




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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2006, 02:09:12 PM »
John in DC adds a nother notch on his outting belt.

McCarthy would be proud.

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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2006, 02:33:40 PM »
John in DC adds a nother notch on his outting belt.

McCarthy would be proud.


One should always be proud to expose a real dangerous , hypocritical phony.
This stuff is true. McCarthy's were lies.

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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2006, 03:17:06 PM »
This stuff is true. McCarthy's were lies.

"These authors often claim that new evidence, in the form of Venona decrypted Soviet messages, Soviet espionage data now opened to the West, and newly released transcripts of closed hearings before McCarthy's subcommittee, have vindicated McCarthy, showing that many of his identifications of Communists were correct. It has also been said that Venona and the Soviet archives have revealed that the scale of Soviet espionage activity in the United States during the 40s and 50s was larger than many scholars suspected,[55][56] and that this too stands as a vindication of McCarthy.

"These attempts to 'rehabilitate' McCarthy have not received much attention from scholars, though there have been some responses from such authors as Kevin Drum[57] and Johann Hari.[58]

"Of the many individuals that figured in McCarthy's investigations or speeches, most were already suspected of being Communists or at least of having leftist politics. There are several cases where Venona or other recent data has confirmed or increased the weight of evidence that a person named by McCarthy was a Soviet agent. However, there are few, if any, cases where McCarthy was responsible for identifying a person, or removing a person from a sensitive government position, where later evidence has increased the likelihood that that person was a Communist or a Soviet agent.[59]

"The names that various authors have listed as 'correctly identified by McCarthy' include:

    * Solomon Adler[60]
    * Cedric Belfrage[61]
    * T.A. Bisson[62]
    * Lauchlin Currie[63]
    * Gustavo Duran[64]
    * Theodore Geiger[65]
    * Haldore Hanson[66]
    * Mary Jane Keeney[67]
    * Owen Lattimore[68]
    * Leonard Mins[69]
    * Annie Lee Moss[70]
    * Franz Leopold Neumann[71]
    * Edward Posniak[72]
    * William Remington[73]
    * John Carter Vincent[74]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

Also...

"McCarthy is often incorrectly described as part of the House Committee on Un-American Activities (technically, HCUA, but generally known as HUAC). HUAC is best known for the investigation of Alger Hiss, and for its investigation of the Hollywood film industry, which led to the blacklisting of hundreds of actors, writers and directors. HUAC was established in May 1938 as the 'Dies Committee' before McCarthy was elected to the Federal office, and, being a House committee, had no connection with McCarthy, who served in the Senate."

(same link)
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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2006, 03:28:23 PM »
Is there any chance we could wait for evidence before we start condemning the guy?
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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 03:39:56 PM »
Is there any chance we could wait for evidence before we start condemning the guy?

ROFL

Evidence? Democrats don't need no stinkin' evidence!
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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 03:52:53 PM »
It just got a little more huge.

UPDATE: Here is how big this story is.
Christian evangelical leader Ted Haggard... one of the nation's most influential evangelical Christians, whose overstuffed agenda includes a weekly conference call to the White House.
He also claims to have direct access to George Bush:

"We have direct access," says Mr. Haggard, senior pastor of the giant New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo. "I can call [Mr. Goeglein], he'll take my concern to the president and get back to me in 24 hours."

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/11/president-of-national-association-of.html

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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2006, 04:07:19 PM »
He also claims to have direct access to George Bush:

"Direct access" is now through another person?

Hey, we're redefining terms as we go along, huh?
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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2006, 04:11:34 PM »
Talk to Teddy.  That's how he described it.

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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2006, 04:15:41 PM »
Talk to Teddy.  That's how he described it.

No thanks. Not the kind of person I would enjoy having a discussion with, I'm sure.
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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2006, 04:39:36 PM »
on McCarthy
judging whats written about him on wikki
it was not that he was wrong that got him in trouble it was that he`s totally unappealling.
I know this for a fact
I guarded the beat culture exhibit and saw literally over a hundred times him questioning this professor.
the guy was a wackjob.
he`s not exactly a coherent speaker.
it didn`t help he had trouble getting his facts straight.
and going after the army was the begginning of the end for him.
he really thought he can insult anybody

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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2006, 05:22:11 PM »
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he really thought he can insult anybody

Perhaps he and Knute are related.


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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2006, 05:25:49 PM »
Is there any chance we could wait for evidence before we start condemning the guy?

Actually , anyone who is so anti-gay and so opposed to gay marriage is probly one because he fears he will be tempted.

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Re: There really is no end to Grand Old Pervert hypocrisy
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2006, 07:30:21 PM »
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he really thought he can insult anybody

Perhaps he and Knute are related.



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