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Party of Defeat

By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com
| 6/4/2008

Most conversations about the coming elections focus on the question of which candidate is most suited to lead the nation as it confronts the challenges and threats ahead. A better question would be to ask whether there is one party? the Democratic Party -- which has demonstrated in word and deed that it is unfit to lead the nation in war at all. Criticism of government policy is essential to a democracy. But in the last five years the Democratic Party has crossed the line from criticism of war policy to fundamental sabotage of the war itself, a position no American party has taken until now.

Starting in July 2003, just three months into the war in Iraq, the Democratic National Committee ran a national TV ad whose message was: ?Read his lips: President Bush Deceives the American People. This was the beginning of a five-year, unrelenting campaign to persuade Americans and their allies that ?Bush lied, people died,? that the war was ?unnecessary? and ?Iraq was no threat.? In other words, for five years, the leaders of the Democratic Party have been telling Americans, America?s allies and America?s enemies that their country was an aggressor nation, which had violated international law, and was in effect the ?bad guy? in the war with the Saddam Hussein regime.

The first principle of psychological warfare campaigns is to destroy the moral character of the opposing commander-in-chief and discredit his nation?s cause. Yet this is a perfect summary of the campaign that has been waged for the length of this war by the entire Democratic Party leadership, Joe Lieberman being an honorable exception who was driven out of his party as a result.

The one saving grace for Democrats would be if their charges were true ? if they were deceived into supporting the war, and if they had turned against it only because they realized their mistake. But this charge is demonstrably false.

In fact, the claim that Bush lied in order to dupe Democrats into supporting the war is itself the biggest lie of the war. Every Democratic Senator who voted for the war had on his or her desk before the vote a 100-page report, called ?The National Intelligence Estimate,? which summarized all America?s intelligence on Iraq that was used to justify the war. We live in a democracy; consequently, the opposition party has access to all our secrets. Democrats sit on the Senate Intelligence Committee, which oversees all of America?s intelligence agencies. If any Democrat on that committee, including Senator John Kerry, had requested any intelligence information Iraq, he or she would have had that information on his or desk within 24 hours. The self-justifying claim that Bush lied to hoodwink the Democrats is a fraudulent charge with no basis in reality.

The Democrats changed their views on the war for one reason and one reason alone: In June 2003, a far-left Democrat named Howard Dean was poised to win the Democratic Party presidential nomination by running on the claim that America was the bad guy in the war in Iraq, and he would get us out.

The charge that Iraq was no threat is another false claim of the Democratic attack on America?s war to defend itself. Typical of Democratic Party leaders, former vice president Al Gore now says that ?Iraq posed no threat? because it was a ?fragile and unstable? nation. But if this were true, the same argument would apply to Afghanistan on September 10, 2001. Afghanistan is half the size of Iraq and a much poorer and unstable nation; it has no oil and its government did not invade two countries and use chemical weapons on its own citizens as Saddam did. Yet by providing a safe harbor to terrorists, Afghanistan made possible the murder of 3,000 Americans in half an hour and allowed Osama bin Laden to do what the Germans and the Japanese failed to accomplish in six years of the Second World War: kill Americans on the American soil. That?s why in February 2002, a year before the war in Iraq, Al Gore was saying that ?Iraq is a virulent threat in a class by itself? and that President Bush should ?push the limit? to do what was necessary to deal with Saddam Hussein.

But the most self-serving and deceptive of the lies told by the Democratic leadership is this: you can support the troops and not support the war. No you can?t. You can?t tell a 19-year old, who is risking his young life in Fallujah and who is surrounded by terrorists who want to kill him, that he shouldn?t be there in the first place; that he?s with the ?bad guys? ? the aggressors, the occupiers, who have no moral right to be Iraq. You can?t do that and not undermine his morale, encourage his enemies, deprive him of allies and put him in danger. And that is exactly what the Democrats have done ? and all the Democrats have done ? in five years of America?s war to deny the terrorists victory in Iraq. Such a party is unfit to lead this nation in war. To place it in a position to do so would be to invite a tragedy of epic proportions.


David Horowitz is the author with Ben Johnson of Party of Defeat: How Democrats and Radicals Undermined the War on Terror Before and After 9/11, just published by Spence Publishing.


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Re: Why the Democratic Party is unfit to occupy the White House.
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 04:05:00 PM »
Horowitz is just another neocon whose sole interest is to keep America fighting Israel's battles for it. 

To argue that because the Taliban government was a threat to America, therefore the Iraqi government COULD be a threat too is ludicrous.  Afghanistan was attacked ONLY after an attack was launched from Afghanistan.  There was no such attack on America launched by Iraq nor was there any credible evidence that such an attack was in the works, let alone imminent. 

No sane person would ever launch a deadly attack on anyone because the victim "MIGHT" one day attack him.  An individual who acted like that would be recognized as a dangerous lunatic and treated accordingly, going either to prison or a secure mental hospital facility.  In the international arena, the lunatics seem to be able to get away with the same shit as long as they have the power to do so.

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Re: Why the Democratic Party is unfit to occupy the White House.
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 04:19:34 PM »
Horowitz is just another neocon whose sole interest is to keep America fighting Israel's battles for it. 

Apparently, so is Obama.

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"Those who threaten Israel threaten us. ... And I will bring to the White House an unshakable commitment to Israel's security.

"That starts with ensuring Israel's qualitative military advantage."

Obama said he was speaking from his heart "as a true friend of Israel."

"Let me be clear. Israel's security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable," Obama said. "The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper -- but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."
Obama: Israel's security 'sacrosanct'
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 06:17:29 PM »
I also made reference to Obama's steadfast pledge to aide and assist Israel, in all manner of form.  Add to that his faith with God, and one wonders how it's possible Brass & Tee could support such a "neocon", with such zeal.  Go figure
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 07:24:26 PM »
Oh, come on. No one gets to run for office without sucking up to the damned Zionists. But Obama is less likely to kowtow to them than McSame.

David Whorowitz is a silly Neocon and is incompetent to offer opinions about anything. The same applies to the Foolish Frontpage Fascist Flyer.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 07:55:16 PM »
Oh, come on. No one gets to run for office without sucking up to the damned Zionists. But Obama is less likely to kowtow to them than McSame.

He sure is talking like he's McSame.  Or do you get to pick and choose which rhetoric is truthful and which is bogus kissing arse?

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Re: Why the Democratic Party is unfit to occupy the White House.
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 08:02:37 PM »
Christ. I recall BT getting on my case when I first rejoined this forum-I forget under what handle-post-yahoo for making some sort of religious-bashing comment.

I doubt Israel/Zionism/Etc arguments counts quite the same way, but the absolute ignorant hatefulness of anti-zionists in this forum is appalling.

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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 08:53:01 PM »
I doubt Israel/Zionism/Etc arguments counts quite the same way, but the absolute ignorant hatefulness of anti-zionists in this forum is appalling.


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Explalin how it is that you consider Zionism to be relative, knowledgeable and lovable.

Zionism is a form of racism. It is based on the theory that God gave the Jews real estate, and they get to keep it and treat non-Jews in their country pretty much as second-class citizens. Palestinians who are not Jewish citizens are treated a lot worse than that: forced to wait hours to cross numerous checkpoints, having their trees cut down, their houses bulldozed and not allowed to even use the same highways as Jews.

Zionism is singularly unlovable. It is basically apartheid in religious garb.
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Re: Why the Democratic Party is unfit to occupy the White House.
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 08:56:46 PM »
I doubt Israel/Zionism/Etc arguments counts quite the same way, but the absolute ignorant hatefulness of anti-zionists in this forum is appalling.


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Explalin how it is that you consider Zionism to be relative, knowledgeable and lovable.

Zionism is a form of racism. It is based on the theory that God gave the Jews real estate, and they get to keep it and treat non-Jews in their country pretty much as second-class citizens. Palestinians who are not Jewish citizens are treated a lot worse than that: forced to wait hours to cross numerous checkpoints, having their trees cut down, their houses bulldozed and not allowed to even use the same highways as Jews.

Zionism is singularly unlovable. It is basically apartheid in religious garb.

I have never apologized for the Israelis. Likewise, I have never criminalized them. Not on a broad, sweeping level. I extend the same analysis to the Palestinians, and other Arab countries who could/do have a say in the matter.

I don't take issue with those who criticize Israel. I take issue with those who treat the contentious matter with spin, talking points, and propaganda.

Oh, and its hardly apartheid: The Palestinians are philisitines. Idiots. They could end their plight, but that would mean accepting Israel, and God told them they are the chosen ones and must kill all Jews. Haven't you read Dune? Good book, good movie. The Arab world acts just like the desert people.
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Re: Why the Democratic Party is unfit to occupy the White House.
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 11:39:31 PM »
Oh, come on. No one gets to run for office without sucking up to the damned Zionists. But Obama is less likely to kowtow to them than McSame.

David Whorowitz is a silly Neocon and is incompetent to offer opinions about anything. The same applies to the Foolish Frontpage Fascist Flyer.
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Good enough to bear repeating.  Well said, XO.  I don't KNOW Obama.  Either he's just saying what he has to say to get elected or he's made pledges to the Zionists that he can't or won't go back on.  I'll gamble on the former, because I know for fact the other two are Zionist puppets who sold out years ago.

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 11:53:11 PM »
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"I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Everything in my power. Everything."

Barack Obama, AIPAC Annual Policy Conference, June 04, 2008



http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=551

With riveting command of the issues, Obama checked off every conceivable question in the minds of Jewish and conservative listeners and showed himself to be knowledgeable and formidable. From no negotiation with Hamas as a terrorist entity, to a personal commitment to the return of captured Israeli soldiers, to the quest for bi-national peace between Israel and Palestinians, Barack drew standing ovations. The ovations were loudest as Obama proclaimed his vision for America?s steadfastness in the looming nuclear stalemate and confrontation with Iran.


Wow , McCain doesn't make it this strong.

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 12:09:30 AM »
<<Wow , McCain doesn't make it this strong.>>

When push comes to shove, we'll see which one is quicker to sell out his country for Zionist advantage.  Meantime, I treat it as just a lot of hot air they all need to say in order to get elected.  Totally meaningless blather from both of them and Hillary too.

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 01:04:33 PM »
<<Wow , McCain doesn't make it this strong.>>

When push comes to shove, we'll see which one is quicker to sell out his country for Zionist advantage.  Meantime, I treat it as just a lot of hot air they all need to say in order to get elected.  Totally meaningless blather from both of them and Hillary too.


It is only words , but words are all we have , to steal our votes away.

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 01:18:41 PM »
<<It is only words , but words are all we have , to steal our votes away.>>

LOL.  very funny, plane.  Funny but at best only half true.  Keep in mind that I would have already decided to vote for Obama on his early opposition to the war and everything he said before he made the obligatory pledge of fealty to the Zionist state, and it was only because I would have been already committed to him that I can overlook his AIPAC BS.

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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 01:39:36 PM »
Keep in mind that I would have already decided to vote for Obama on his early opposition to the war and everything he said before he made the obligatory pledge of fealty to the Zionist state, and it was only because I would have been already committed to him that I can overlook his AIPAC BS.

Don't forget his now consistent dissing of anything and everything Rev Wright, not to mention Phleger, and his continued support of funding the war, with not a hint of any leigslation to stop it.  At least we know the BS doesn't stop with Israel
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