FC v. T&SL

[Brassmask]

[sirs]

With the context being that the House of Representaives is the pursestrings to the Budget......and it was a fiscally conservative House of Representatives that brought about the balanced Budget.  If only......

[Brassmask]

With the context being that the House of Representaives is the pursestrings to the Budget......and it was a fiscally conservative House of Representatives that brought about the balanced Budget.  If only......

Um, yeaaaaahhh, you might can get away with that lie on Reagan and Papi but W had absolute power since 9.11.2001 through 2006 midterms (and some would say even now).  He could have balanced the budget if he wanted to but he and his cronies decided to cash in instead thus we will pay China billions so he could play war and make him and his cronies lots of oil money.

[sirs]

Yea, he did, and the congress then was NOT fiscally conservative as it was under Clinton.  Not a lie, just them dern pesky facts again.  Kinda like the fact that every budget Clinton proposed was FAR greater in spending than what came out of congress and ultimately signed.  Kinda like everyone of Reagan's fiscally conserative budgets was DOA, as soon as it crossed the Tip O'Neil controlled House.

[Brassmask]

Yea, he did, and the congress then was NOT fiscally conservative as it was under Clinton.  Not a lie, just them dern pesky facts again.  Kinda like the fact that every budget Clinton proposed was FAR greater in spending than what came out of congress and ultimately signed.  Kinda like everyone of Reagan's fiscally conserative budgets was DOA, as soon as it crossed the Tip O'Neil controlled House.

So, you prove the point yourself.  Clinton signed the stripped down budgets.  Good for him.  And W signed the nice and fat budgets that his Republican Congress approved.  Boo for GOP and Bush as a whole entity.

What you guys seem to be all about is being fiscally conservative when it behooves you politically.

And answer me this:  If Reagan was so beloved by the people, why didn't he exert that leverage and balance some damned budgets during his snowjob of a presidency?

[sirs]

Not quite.....What "us guys" are all about is being fiscally conservative ALL the time.  You don't see "us guys" singing the praises of the GOP congress under Bush II, do you.  The House under Clinton was.  The Houses under Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush II, were NOT.  Reagan took the word of Congress & tip O'Neil that they'd reign in spending.  They pulled a fast one on him, and in order to get his military budget to repair all the damage Carter had done to it, signed off on the hyperbolic spending spree of the Democrat controlled House

[Brassmask]

Not quite.....What "us guys" are all about is being fiscally conservative ALL the time.  You don't see "us guys" singing the praises of the GOP congress under Bush II, do you.  The House under Clinton was.  The Houses under Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush II, were NOT.  Reagan took the word of Congress & tip O'Neil that they'd reign in spending.  They pulled a fast one on him, and in order to get his military budget to repair all the damage Carter had done to it, signed off on the hyperbolic spending spree of the Democrat controlled House

Ok, sirs, ok, whatever you need to believe.  I'd hate to rattle the tenuous rationalizations that are holding your sanity together like a button on a fat man's trousers...

[sirs]

Don't need to "believe anything".  Just need to recite the facts, is all

[Brassmask]

Mmmmhmm

[BT]

Not to quibble about cartoons, but a fairer comparison of deficits under different types of leaders would be to compare GWB's deficits to FDR and LBJ. Specifically as a percentage of GDP.

[Amianthus]

With the context being that the House of Representaives is the pursestrings to the Budget.

Also, the fact that Clinton's budget only had a surplus if you counted that he spent the SS income. If you take the SS income out (because it will have to be repaid eventually) all of them had a deficit, just some larger than others.

[sirs]

D'oh

[Knutey]

With the context being that the House of Representaives is the pursestrings to the Budget.

Also, the fact that Clinton's budget only had a surplus if you counted that he spent the SS income. If you take the SS income out (because it will have to be repaid eventually) all of them had a deficit, just some larger than others.

Whenever you put forth an obscure "fact" one can be sure it is a lie.
The SS thing is nonsense - every penny of SS has ALWAYS been invested in T-Bills, meaning, every penny of SS has always been loaned to the govt. You cant all be that ignorant.

[Plane]

With the context being that the House of Representaives is the pursestrings to the Budget.

Also, the fact that Clinton's budget only had a surplus if you counted that he spent the SS income. If you take the SS income out (because it will have to be repaid eventually) all of them had a deficit, just some larger than others.

Whenever you put forth an obscure "fact" one can be sure it is a lie.
The SS thing is nonsense - every penny of SS has ALWAYS been invested in T-Bills, meaning, every penny of SS has always been loaned to the govt. You cant all be that ignorant.

Yes that is true , and if there were just as much SS incomeing funds now ,and just as little outgo  as when Clinton was president , there would be a surplus right now.

[Amianthus]

The SS thing is nonsense - every penny of SS has ALWAYS been invested in T-Bills, meaning, every penny of SS has always been loaned to the govt. You cant all be that ignorant.

Do you know what a T-Bill is?