Is America really going to do this?

[richpo64]

>>Seriously Missus? I expect this article from Sirs or Rich, but not you.<<

And of course I expect this kind of cowardice from JS.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Frankly, it would not bother me if they all moved, so long as their money stayed here.




Well there you are , you never understood the fable of the Goose that laid golden eggs.

If the people who are creating wealth move somewhere , they are going to start produceing the wealth there.
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Flash! Money is what makes money. Take away all of Trump's or Icahn's money and come back in a year and see how much they have made. These people are not magic geese. The same capital could probably generate even more money and more jobs than these "magic geese people" you worship.

It would be amusing to see how well Trump might manage to bullshit his way to fame and fortune in the country that produces most of the world's blarney> Here, he is a champion bullsh*tter. But in Ireland, he'd be the rankest of amateurs.

You can believe in magic geese if you wish, and the Tooth Fairy as well.

[Plane]

Frankly, it would not bother me if they all moved, so long as their money stayed here.




Well there you are , you never understood the fable of the Goose that laid golden eggs.

If the people who are creating wealth move somewhere , they are going to start produceing the wealth there.
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Flash! Money is what makes money. Take away all of Trump's or Icahn's money and come back in a year and see how much they have made. These people are not magic geese. The same capital could probably generate even more money and more jobs than these "magic geese people" you worship.

It would be amusing to see how well Trump might manage to bullshit his way to fame and fortune in the country that produces most of the world's blarney> Here, he is a champion bullsh*tter. But in Ireland, he'd be the rankest of amateurs.

You can believe in magic geese if you wish, and the Tooth Fairy as well.

You seem to beleivein spontainious generation.

Money that is distributed unearned is sterile , where has such money ever made more of itself?

[MissusDe]

Yes, JSov.  Seriously.  

Here is what concerns me:

The media has failed to explore issues about Barack Obama's past associations and his core beliefs which will impact his actions if elected - and I have yet to see a Democrat who cares.  There are legitimate questions about him that need to be answered; if any one of these questions were to be raised about McCain, you know damn well that we wouldn't hear the end of it.  

Apparently you're satisfied with what he proposes for our country.  I don't trust Obama or his political agenda, and I am having great difficulty understanding those who do.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Apparently you're satisfied with what he proposes for our country.  I don't trust Obama or his political agenda, and I am having great difficulty understanding those who do.


Am I in favor of the top 1% owning 38% of all wealth? HELL NO!

Do I want them to continue owning even a larger percentage of it?

Again, HELL NO!

And why would that be?

Countries that have an unequal distribution of wealth are far less pleasant places to live in, Go live in any of them, and you will see. If you are poor, prepare to starve. If you are rich, prepare to be forced to hire armed guards or have your children kidnapped, be forced to live in a gated community like a convict in a prison.

As for McCain what has he to offer? If he lives, more war. He really likes war.
More dead, more maimed for life.
If he dies, then we shall have President Ditz.

[richpo64]

>>Apparently you're satisfied with what he proposes for our country.  I don't trust Obama or his political agenda, and I am having great difficulty understanding those who do.<<

The folks who support Obama haven't the slightest idea who the man is. He refuses to release any of his college documents, his state senate documents, nothing of any kind. The media doesn't care, democrats don't care. We could actually elect a radical socialist who wants to rewrite the Constitution. He's dined with terrorists and their supporters. Mostly by accident we've heard him admit to his opposition to the American system of government. They don't care. It truly is very hard to understand these people. Personally I think it's rooted in their rage. Obama was a perfect pick. He's Black which means the left cannot, or will not ask the hard questions. He also allows them to call anyone who disagrees with his a racist, their favorite attack of all. And in the end it all goes back to their debilitating support for the reprobate Bill Clinton. So like I said before, they could nominate Idi Amin and they'd deny his crimes and vote for him.

[_JS]

Yes, JSov.  Seriously. 

Here is what concerns me:

The media has failed to explore issues about Barack Obama's past associations and his core beliefs which will impact his actions if elected - and I have yet to see a Democrat who cares.  There are legitimate questions about him that need to be answered; if any one of these questions were to be raised about McCain, you know damn well that we wouldn't hear the end of it. 

Apparently you're satisfied with what he proposes for our country.  I don't trust Obama or his political agenda, and I am having great difficulty understanding those who do.

That would be quite a stretch. I'm not satisfied with his half-ass healthcare plan as just one of many examples.

The problem is that I'm faced with a choice. The other side of the same coin is McCain and Palin. If you held a gun to my head Missus, I would not vote for Governor Palin. Why? Because she believes in an economics of supply-side theories and providing the wealthy more and more. Add to that her lightweight political acumen and it creates a very dangerous combination.

And what of McCain's associations? This is the same man who took an endorsement from Pastor Hagee, a Protestant preacher who claims that Hitler was only doing the work of the Lord. The media did not make a great deal of noise about that. I don't buy into the right wing victimhood theories. George W Bush got a great deal of love from the media as well as no real journalistic criticism of the build-up to the Iraq War.

The real problem of the right wing in this election is not Obama - it is your choice for a candidate. John McCain was an extremely poor choice. As the polls show, he was soundly defeated in all three debates. He is seen as a dinosaur and throwing the maverick card when you've been inside Washington for nearly 30 years just doesn't play well. Then attacking the sitting Republican President, when you played up your voting record with the man in the primaries just screams hypocrisy. Then selecting Governor Palin? That was an incredible bomb.

Obama is what he is. The truth of the matter is that the guy won his way up in Chicago. He's a political mind. I wouldn't trust him either. He'll run over anyone to win - but right now the Democrats want a winner. Obama is that guy. McCain is a loser. You can be bitter about it, but that's how the game is played and Obama is simply better at it.

[Brassmask]

Yes, JSov.  Seriously.  

Here is what concerns me:

The media has failed to explore issues about Barack Obama's past associations and his core beliefs which will impact his actions if elected - and I have yet to see a Democrat who cares.  There are legitimate questions about him that need to be answered; if any one of these questions were to be raised about McCain, you know damn well that we wouldn't hear the end of it.  

Apparently you're satisfied with what he proposes for our country.  I don't trust Obama or his political agenda, and I am having great difficulty understanding those who do.

So, now you're understanding those of us on the left way back in 2000 and then very much so in 2004.

[BT]

The only real person in this election is Palin.

Unfortunately, this woman being demonized in 2008 will not be the same woman being demonized in 2012, , she will be forced to become smoother, slicker, more programmed and handled and that is a shame.

[Brassmask]

The only real person in this election is Palin.

Unfortunately, this woman being demonized in 2008 will not be the same woman being demonized in 2012, , she will be forced to become smoother, slicker, more programmed and handled and that is a shame.

I would say that any, and I mean ANY, member of 3DHS would be head and shoulders above Sarah Palin as qualified intellectually to be president of the US.

Even RR and even rich.

There is a difference between being "programmed" like Palin will have to be and being wise or smart like one of us and certainly Obama is.

Palin is not articulate or intellectually curious.

She is, however, SHREWD.   Shrewd as in sneaky and snide not shrewd as in Rovian.

[BT]

I would say that any, and I mean ANY, member of 3DHS would be head and shoulders above Sarah Palin as qualified intellectually to be president of the US.

Believe your own garbage.

You don't get elected to city council and mayor twice as well as beating an incumbent governor in the primaries by being a dumbass.

[Brassmask]

I would say that any, and I mean ANY, member of 3DHS would be head and shoulders above Sarah Palin as qualified intellectually to be president of the US.

Believe your own garbage.

You don't get elected to city council and mayor twice as well as beating an incumbent governor in the primaries by being a dumbass.

I submit that if what you say is true, then Palin is the exception to that rule.

Knowing a couple of city council members and having watched my own mayor for the last few years, I submit your statement is flatly false.  Dumbasses get elected all the time.  You'd think after 8 years of Bush you would have learned something.

[BT]

You'd think after 8 years of Bush you would have learned something.

What I have learned is that anyone one who doesn't think smell dress and act like your ilk is a dumbass.

You guys don't handle intellectual diversity very well.

[Brassmask]

You'd think after 8 years of Bush you would have learned something.

What I have learned is that anyone one who doesn't think smell dress and act like your ilk is a dumbass.

You guys don't handle intellectual diversity very well.

If Palin showed any kind of intellectual prowess other than being able to spew sarcasm, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

Matt Damon described the possibility of her being the president as "a bad Disney movie" but he didn't really think it through.  In those types of bad Disney movies that he's talking about, a "normal" person would, through some kind of weird set of circumstances be made the president of a company or the US and would spend the second act failing to rise to the occasion till that "normal" person would then call on some inner strength or downhome wisdom that would then allow them to take command of the situation and bring us all in for that expected, exultant landing before the credits role.  (We'd then laugh at the actors as they danced to some early 90's dance hit and goofed for the cameras.)

The Sarah Palin version would go a totally different way.  Much like that guy that got sent to Viet Nam accidentally in place of his buddy, Palin would fail completely and all her supporters would abandon her and in a fit of righteous rage, she would make choices that would result in America being wiped off the map in slow motion images of mushroom clouds reflected in Palin's oh so smart glasses which allow those shallow, "blank-stare" eyes to be seen filling with tears as Mozart's Requiem Mass shatters blasts out over the audience.

Palin has no inner wisdom.  Palin has no folksy smarts.  Palin is lacking in intellect and wisdom that she has actually made McCain, a reasonable man, more stupid.

[Michael Tee]

<<You guys don't handle intellectual diversity very well.>>

Once again BT amazes by the sheer ingenuity with which he defends the indefensible. 

So now Palin's contribution is not to intellectual excellence, which all of us can understand, and which Obama personifies, but to "intellectual diversity."  I guess we could achieve even more "intellectual diversity" by admitting Joe the Plumber to the inner governing circle, and for the ultimate in intellectual diversity, how about Bristol and her shotgun-husband-to-be, Levi the Fuckin Redneck?