PETN Explosive

[BSB]

PETN

The explosive used on the airplane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentaerythritol_tetranitrate

[Amianthus]

I used to blow up insects with small amounts of this in chem labs.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Here are some clips showing the effects of 20 grams then 50 grams
of the same explosive the Christmas Bomber attempted to use on
Northwest/Delta Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Detroit Dec 25th.
The bomber had 80 grams.

PETN

[BSB]

I've got some experience with a close relative, C4. You need both heat and a shockwave to set it off. They can't get a blasting cap through security therefore they've been failing and only producing a fire.

[Kramer]

I've got some experience with a close relative, C4. You need both heat and a shockwave to set it off. They can't get a blasting cap through security therefore they've been failing and only producing a fire.

I'm sure they have a tested & proven method that works but the person needs to follow the instructions to a T. This guy was a fuckup. If they had selected someone like you the job would have been done. Anybody with an IQ between 87-110 could pull it off.

[BSB]

Yeah? We'll they've failed twice. The shoe bomber was using the same stuff. Maybe they need to go back to the drawing board.

[Kramer]

Yeah? We'll they've failed twice. The shoe bomber was using the same stuff. Maybe they need to go back to the drawing board.

so you think they haven't at least tried the theory out? Richard Reed wasn't too bright either. They need to get better recruits that can follow the correct procedures. People that aren't depressed and suffering from too many personal distractions. I'm sure in their training scenarios it worked fine. You do know that they have used actual airliner fuselages to train?

[BSB]

"actual airline fuselage to train"

Ah huh. You mean some empty shell sitting abandoned in the desert somewhere. Terrific.

I tell you what. You go over and run their training program for them and we'll be guaranteed they won't get any better at it then they are now.

[BSB]

Setting off PETN via a chemical reaction vs a blasting cap is "not impossible, but it's not easy either...." Clearly not easy enough for them, so far. 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126195987401406861.html?mod=article-outset-box

[Kramer]

"actual airline fuselage to train"

Ah huh. You mean some empty shell sitting abandoned in the desert somewhere. Terrific.

I tell you what. You go over and run their training program for them and we'll be guaranteed they won't get any better at it then they are now.

well then if I could that would be a heroic act which would surely get me a medal pinned to my chest by Obama. since 9/11 came out of your airport could you recommend a local terrorist recruiting office in your area? I'll head over and sign up. I want to do my part for the war effort that your guy Obama doesn't realize we are engaged in.