Dan Rather: "Obama couldn't sell watermelons if you........"

[sirs]

D'oh

[Michael Tee]

Canada had a few slaves, sure, but they were freed a long time before the U.S. freed its slaves.  And they were never enslaved in the millions to the point where the U.S. economy had come to depend upon their labour.

[Amianthus]

Canada had a few slaves, sure, but they were freed a long time before the U.S. freed its slaves.

30 years is "a long time"?

[Kramer]

Canada had a few slaves, sure, but they were freed a long time before the U.S. freed its slaves.  And they were never enslaved in the millions to the point where the U.S. economy had come to depend upon their labour.

I bet the FEW weren't too happy.

[BT]

Canada had a few slaves, sure, but they were freed a long time before the U.S. freed its slaves.

So? You still had them. Owned, traded and considered property.

[Xavier_Onassis]

It is stretching it a bit to tell Tee that he had slaves. I imagine that the Tees came to Canada long after the last slave was freed. The largest minority in Canada was the Francophones, probably followed by Chinese, then Ukrainians, and then perhaps Blacks (or maybe Indians). Canada has had several French-speaking PM's.

[sirs]

Oooooo, the literal nazi comes out of his closet

[BT]

I imagine that the Tees came to Canada long after the last slave was freed.

Doesn't matter. His country had slaves. The frontier was settled with slaves and the country and slave owners prospered because of slaves.

Doesn't matter when the Tees came, they reaped the benefits of the contributions of those who came before them. And least that is how the argument goes in the USA , don't see why different logic would apply to Canada.

[Michael Tee]

It was a drop in the bucket.  Like comparing the no. of victims of Ted Bundy with the number of victims of Adolf Hitler and then (in BT's "numbers make no difference" formulation) equating the two of them as mass murderers of equal stature.  Basically, Canadian guilt over slavery is minuscule, American guilt is maximal.

[Kramer]

It was a drop in the bucket.  Like comparing the no. of victims of Ted Bundy with the number of victims of Adolf Hitler and then (in BT's "numbers make no difference" formulation) equating the two of them as mass murderers of equal stature.  Basically, Canadian guilt over slavery is minuscule, American guilt is maximal.

true that's why Obama got elected -- good old White Guilt. Surly it has nothing to do with his experience and ability.

[Michael Tee]

<<Doesn't matter. His country had slaves. The frontier was settled with slaves and the country and slave owners prospered because of slaves.>>


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?   The frontier was settled with slaves?

I never heard that before in my life.  I'm not denying it, but where the hell did you find that?  It does not seem very likely to me at all.  Also I don't think there were enough slaves to make a rat's ass worth of difference in the overall fortunes of the country.

[Michael Tee]

<<true that's why Obama got elected -- good old White Guilt. Surly it has nothing to do with his experience and ability.>>

Obama got elected because he wasn't George Bush and because he wasn't a Republican.  A fucking dog running in his place under the Democratic Party banner would have won that election against any two Republicans on earth.

[sirs]

Boy, what a low bar you place Obama under

[BT]

I never heard that before in my life.  I'm not denying it, but where the hell did you find that?  It does not seem very likely to me at all.  Also I don't think there were enough slaves to make a rat's ass worth of difference in the overall fortunes of the country.

Most of the Black Canadian slaves were of the indoor type. They went where their masters went. The rest of the slaves were aboriginals captured and indentured as the white man traveled westward.

[BT]

Basically, Canadian guilt over slavery is minuscule, American guilt is maximal.

Not true at all. If slavery was evil, and the Canadians did indeed practice it, then what they did was evil.

Scale really has no relevance except in the minds of apologists and deniers.