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Re: Tea Partiers Are Just Embarrassed Republicans
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2010, 02:55:03 PM »
Watch how fast the backpedaling goes........though the accusation will again stop at lack of evidence/proof as proof positive of the accusation

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2010, 03:17:47 PM »
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The only relevant questions would be, how many were lynched by racism, and how many by partronizaiton?

Actually that is not the question, because with your insistence that the tea partiers are racist, and that lynching is a symptom of racism, it follows that if the tea partiers are racist, they would have lynched someone.




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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2010, 03:25:51 PM »
<<Actually that is not the question, because with your insistence that the tea partiers are racist, and that lynching is a symptom of racism, it follows that if the tea partiers are racist, they would have lynched someone.>>

Your theory only makes sense if all racists are lynch mob members.  It's bullshit because not all racists are lynchers, although all lynchers are racists.

I'll illustrate:  how many blacks were lynched by Trent Lott?  By Strom Thurmond?  By Senator Macacawitz?  By Bull Connor? By Lester Maddox?

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Re: Tea Partiers Are Just Embarrassed Republicans
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2010, 04:20:50 PM »
All lynchers might not be racists. They may simply be prone to violence and caught up in the mob.

A while back in NYC there were a group of blacks roamig Central Park beating up people. They called the phenomena wilding. Was race the determining factor, or was it a combination of things including peer pressure and rebellion?

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2010, 04:30:58 PM »
probly race is a factor but it`s still not racism ,because thier black.

but it`s still ok to say it`s bigoted ,but that word is rarely used today.


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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2010, 05:19:04 PM »
<<A while back in NYC there were a group of blacks roamig Central Park beating up people. They called the phenomena wilding. Was race the determining factor, or was it a combination of things including peer pressure and rebellion?>>

Actually, your facts are a little out of date.  "Wilding" turns out to be an invention of the NYPD dicks who beat the coerced confessions out of the black teens falsely convicted of the rape.  But I'm sure in your topsy-turvy view of the world, there was nothing racist in the NYPD's conduct, just a sincere desire to see justice done.  Any white college students from any white middle class family would have faced similar arrests, beatings, forced confessions and railroad justice.  That the girl was white and the suspects black I am positive would never have entered into the minds of any of those fine upstanding police officers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_Jogger_case
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2010, 05:39:28 PM »
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April 19 was known to have been a night when such a gang attack occurred, in which the suspects had entered the park in Harlem with over 30 acquaintances.

Are you saying because there were procedural difficulties in the specified rape case that these youth did no enter Central Park and beat strangers? That this wild thinging was just made up bragging?

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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2010, 05:52:54 PM »
<<Are you saying because there were procedural difficulties in the specified rape case that these youth did no enter Central Park and beat strangers? That this wild thinging was just made up bragging?>>

I am saying that the word "wilding" was not part of any of these kids' vocabularies, that it was made up by the NYPD and entered into the language through the racist tabloid reporting that lapped up every word those racist pigs fed to it.  It made for sensational copy.

Whether those kids were choirboys or not, I don't know.  They may have been muggers.  Given the socioeconomic disadvantages they were forced to endure in racist America, it would not exactly shock me if they were.  Might even surprise me if they weren't.  What we know for a fact now is that none of them raped that girl and none of them crushed her skull with a brick (or any other weapon) despite all the racist lies and bullshit and perjury of New York's finest.  Just chalk up four more young black men railroaded into serious criminal convictions by racist cops, courts, judges and MSM.  Just another day in God's country.

Incidentally, I gotta say that I love the spin you throw for the racist bastards - - coerced confessions and wrongful convictions are just "procedural difficulties."  BRAVO, BT!    Goebbels would be very proud.

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Re: Tea Partiers Are Just Embarrassed Republicans
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 06:37:20 PM »
Wilding was a misunderstanding of the term doing the wild thing based on a tone loc rap. from your wiki article

As if misunderstanding patois gives you a get out of jail free card.

Either they roamed the park like a pack of wolves or they made it up. Were they lying?



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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2010, 06:45:02 PM »
<<Wilding was a misunderstanding of the term doing the wild thing based on a tone loc rap. from your wiki article>>

"Misunderstanding" my ass.  That word entered the language like wildfire and no attempt whatsoever was made by those racist pigs to correct any "misunderstanding" that helped the MSM to vilify those boys.

<<As if misunderstanding patois gives you a get out of jail free card.>>

"Misunderstanding patois" - - another racist spin that would do Goebbels proud - - is not what got them the get out of jail free card.  Being framed with coerced confessions by racist pigs is what did the trick.  Good spin, though.

<<Either they roamed the park like a pack of wolves or they made it up. Were they lying?>>

I dunno.  First show me where they said "We roamed the park like a pack of wolves."  Then I'll tell ya if they were lying or not.  A pack of wolves would leave a pretty bloody trail in Central Park, though, so I'm kind of inclined more towards the view that you're just parroting  more racist bullshit to replace the crap that was already shot down in flames.

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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 07:53:57 PM »
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According to a police investigation, the culprits were gangs of teenagers who would assault strangers as part of an activity that became known as "wilding." New York City detectives said the word was used by the suspects themselves to describe their actions to police.[4]  This account has been disputed by other journalists, who say that it originated in a police detective's misunderstanding of the suspects' use of the phrase "doing the wild thing", lyrics from Tone Lōc's hit song "Wild Thing".[5][6]  April 19 was known to have been a night when such a gang attack occurred, in which the suspects had entered the park in Harlem with over 30 acquaintances

From your wiki article.

Pitt, David E. (1989-04-22). "Jogger's Attackers Terrorized at Least 9 in 2 Hours". New York Times. "The youths who raped and savagely beat a young investment banker as she jogged in Central Park Wednesday night were part of a loosely organized gang of 32 schoolboys whose random, motiveless assaults terrorized at least eight other people over nearly two hours, senior police investigators said yesterday. Chief of Detectives Robert Colangelo, who said the attacks appeared unrelated to money, race, drugs or alcohol, said that some of the 20 youths brought in for questioning had told investigators that the crime spree was the product of a pastime called wilding."


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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2010, 08:28:51 PM »
Lotta people brought in told the police a lotta things.  Who'll ever know what was beaten out of them, what was what the kids thought the cops wanted to hear and what was even true? 

The only thing we know for sure is that racist pigs coerced confessions from about four young black men who were then convicted of rape and aggravated assault causing serious bodily injury and did serious time for crimes they did not commit.  Someone else later confessed to the crime and the confession was backed up by DNA evidence.

Were the boys who were originally framed for the crime choir-boys?  Did they have blameless records?  We don't know that and frankly it's not important.  If in fact they did commit other crimes that night, let the police come forward and charge them appropriately, otherwise it's just more meaningless racist BS added to the already monstrous pile of racist crap that accompanied the original sham trials and convictions.

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Re: Tea Partiers Are Just Embarrassed Republicans
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2010, 09:40:04 PM »
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A pack of wolves would leave a pretty bloody trail in Central Park,

9 people were attacked that night. But hell, these are just black boys, products of the ghetto, government wards, police can have them crapping in their pants anytime they want. Make them cop any plea. Because they really don't have it in them to be real thugs, being mamas boys and all.




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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2010, 10:24:29 PM »
<<9 people were attacked that night.>>

Please define "attack" otherwise you are just spouting meaningless drivel.  While weeping and moaning about the "attacks" of unspecified nature, but presumably minor enough that NONE of them warranted headlines at the time, your indifference to the railroading of innocent black youths by racist pigs into forced confessions, sham trials and wrongful convictions on serious charges makes apparently no impression whatever on you.  Typical of all white racist oppressors, you are hyper-alert to the wrongdoing (or in this case, even the POTENTIAL for wrongdoing) of young black males and totally indifferent to the injustices committed upon them by racist pigs and court officers. 

 <<But hell, these are just black boys, products of the ghetto, government wards, police can have them crapping in their pants anytime they want. Make them cop any plea. >> 

As it turns out, that is pretty much how it went down. 

<<Because they really don't have it in them to be real thugs, being mamas boys and all. >>

Maybe you know something that I don't.  DID any of them turn out to be "real thugs?"  Like the  KKK?  Like those rednecks who dragged a black man chained by the ankles to their pickup truck down country roads till his head came off?    Because if you're looking for 'real thugs" I think you better get off your high horse and quit the speculative chase after these kids, convicted of actually NOTHING and start looking at some REAL thugs, the rednecks and crackers all around you.  THEM, you don't have to speculate about.

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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2010, 10:27:39 PM »
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Maybe you know something that I don't.

No you know it to. The kids admitted to mugging people in Central Park that night. What they did was recant the rape.

You think being black is an excuse to mug your daughter?