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Good luck with that
« on: April 28, 2010, 04:35:54 PM »
Crist to Run as Independent in FL Sen Race
April 28, 2010
by: Kimberly Schwandt


Republican Florida Governor Charlie Crist has decided he will run as an independent in the race to fill the Florida U.S. Senate seat, Crist allies tell Fox News. The official announcement is scheduled for Thursday at 5pm ET in St. Petersburg, Florida.

The Senate campaign has been rough and tumble for Crist, he was once the front-runner -- but in recent months began trailing his GOP opponent, former Florida State Speaker Marco Rubio.

Crist has said that under no circumstance would he drop out of the race, saying he will do what is best for the voters of Florida. The governor says Republicans in Washington want him to stay in the Republican party but voters in Florida have told him they want him to run as an independent.

His campaign and the governor's office have not officially confirmed anything, however this move by Crist has made internal communications difficult because some staff are unlikely to continue to work with Crist as an independent candidate.

The governor is expected to use much of Thursday for courtesy calls to supporters, allies and some Republican officials nationwide. Close advisers expect him to say tomorrow that he looks forward to caucusing with Republicans but that is not a certainty, there are still some issues being worked out and discussed.

Rubio has also been gaining momentum recently by clinching endorsements from big name Republicans including former Vice President Dick Cheney, New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former 2008 presidential candidate and Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

"Washington is broken and Congress is already overflowing with politicians who need pollsters to tell them what to think. It certainly doesn't need another one. Now more than ever America needs leaders with the strength of conviction. That is why I am proud to endorse Marco Rubio," Cheney said in a statement last week.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who initially supported Crist, indicated Sunday that if Crist switched to run as an independent, he would no longer support him.

"I would be troubled if the governor decided to run as an independent. I think that would be a serious problem. And he would certainly not have my support and not have the support of any other Republicans that I know," McConnell said on Fox News Sunday.

Crist had until Friday at noon to pick his party affiliation.



Who do you think he'll caucus with?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Good luck with that
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2010, 05:56:27 PM »
     Lieberman was probly more popular than ever when he showed the public that he didn't need the Partys approval to perform  the act of thought.


        Do Floridians really feel tht the party is the important part of a Senator?

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Re: Good luck with that
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2010, 06:37:36 PM »
I get the distinct feeling it's the person, and not the party.  When Lieberman ran as an Independent, the people voted for him vs that of the far more liberal Democrat pushing the hard left's agenda

I'm guessing that the people will vote for the person they want to represent their best interests.  And if a majority want the left leaning moderate in Frist, who supported much of Obama's agenda over that of Rubio's conservative credentials, and pledge to repeal as much as possible of what Obama has been doing, then so be it.

But what if they still want Rubio? 

What message does that send to Obama, following the Mass cruise missile, by the name of Brown.  If that wasn't a wake up call, not sure what else you could slap the left with, other than a tire iron.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Good luck with that
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 02:58:17 PM »
On Inclusiveness, the GOP Just Can't Win

On July 27, 2009, former Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio swung by the D.C. offices of National Review (where I'm a contributing editor). He was there seeking support for his then-long-shot candidacy for Mel Martinez's U.S. Senate seat. That seat is currently held by George LeMieux, who was appointed by Gov. Charlie Crist to keep it warm for himself. Rubio was relatively low on funds at the time, and Crist was still seen as a shoo-in by the political establishment.

Rubio was pretty much exactly as you see him on TV. Fast-talking, confident, youthful, energetic and knowledgeable. We were all very impressed with him. Moreover, the general consensus inside the room was that the general consensus outside the room was wrong.

In several recent elections, the base of the Republican Party has been asked to vote for fairly moderate candidates they didn't particularly like. Despite a lot of spin that John McCain represented a "third term" for George W. Bush, the Arizona senator had, in fact, been a thorn in the side of both the party machinery and the conservative rank-and-file. Many conservatives still kick their cats across the room whenever they're reminded of President Bush's stumping for Arlen Specter.

This year, we reasoned, Republicans surely would be asked again to pull the lever for moderates. Some were already foreseeable, like Rep. Mark Kirk in Illinois (vying for President Obama's Senate seat) and Rep. Mike Castle (seeking Vice President Joe Biden's Senate seat in Delaware). In other cases it was likely that the base would be asked to either vote for a conservative loser or a moderate (potential) winner.

There's nothing wrong with such compromises. Even William F. Buckley insisted he was merely for the most conservative candidate electable. In politics, when you make the perfect the enemy of the good, you open the door to something even worse.

Hence the appeal of Rubio. At the time, we concluded that the base of the GOP, both nationally and particularly in Florida, would be starving for an opportunity to support a principled conservative who could actually win in a general election. Add in the fact that Crist had both literally and figuratively hugged Obama in response to the stimulus package, and the fact that Florida's GOP primary is closed, and it seemed obvious that the Cuban American Rubio was that guy. My colleague, John Miller, wrote the National Review cover story that helped nationalize Rubio's candidacy.

A lot has happened since then. We were proved right, and so much of the conventional wisdom has been proved wrong. Rubio's jalopy of a candidacy quickly turned into a juggernaut, chasing Crist out of the GOP entirely. Indeed, many now call Rubio the "GOP's Obama," which is not quite right. If Rubio wins and then runs for president in 2012, the comparison will be more apt.

For years, Beltway conventional wisdom held that Republicans need to embrace Latinos, to become more youthful and more hip. So what's the response to a 38-year-old Latino son of immigrants from Miami who quotes Snoop Dogg on his Twitter account and has successfully knocked a classically hackish older pol from his perch?

Why, that this just shows how the GOP's less inclusive than ever! It seems that no matter whom the GOP includes, it's always the wrong kind of inclusiveness.

Even more recently, we've been told that the GOP needs to get serious about governing and be willing to make tough choices. In the same "Fox News Sunday" interview in March in which Crist insisted that he would not run as an independent, both men were asked what they would do about the deficit.
Rubio said he was open to the politically perilous option of changing the cost-of-living formula for Social Security.
Crist pandered to older Floridians claiming their entitlement is sacrosanct and instead mouthed some nonsense about Social Security "fraud" and "waste." There's precious little of either. Again, it seems that being "serious" about governing means nothing more than agreeing with Democrats.

Barring some literal or figurative tragedy, Rubio will in all likelihood be the next senator from Florida, yet victory will again be proof to the usual Beltway crowd that the GOP just can't win.


Floridians will validate the direction this country wishes to go
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Re: Good luck with that
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 03:53:55 PM »
It will be interesting.

Rubio is Latino, Meeks is Black and Crist is for himself.


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Re: Good luck with that
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 03:56:30 PM »
Agreed
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle