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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Kramer on May 25, 2010, 07:10:20 PM
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Plug The Damn Hole says your president.
If he really wanted the hole plugged all he would have to do is make it happen, kinda like Jesus healing the blind. So the BIG question here is why won't he plug the hole?
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Plug The Damn Hole says your president.
If he really wanted the hole plugged all he would have to do is make it happen, kinda like Jesus healing the blind. So the BIG question here is why won't he plug the hole?
I think he is hitting King Canutes problem , even a great King is human.
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Flawed human at that. Over-rated, underwhelming, a disappointment, and a sad pathetically poor leader. His 'super powers' can't fix the leak, they haven't fixed the economy, they didn't reduce unemployment, they didn't unite the nation and they weren't able to improve health care for all. He is a little man with a big ego. He fooled a bunch of losers into voting for him believing he was some kind of god or magical being. Every single thing he touches turns to shit. He can't even see the reality of his lack of extraordinary powers. His people have fooled him into thinking he's got that something special. He goes from one crises to the next making each one worse than it was before he touched it. He got a damaged nation and made it more damaged. He had opportunities to fix the country and squandered them. He is a boy in a mans $3,000 outfit. A 'president that goes to the graduation at West Point and is the only speaker that relies on a teleprompter. How embarrassing that he doesn't even recognize using a teleprompter is like riding a bike with in the Tour De France with training wheels. Even the students that spoke didn't use teleprompters. The decibels of applause were far less than the sound of fluttering humming bird wings. He impressed so few at that graduation last week. My guess, the poorest student has more talent and ability then Barry claims. Personally I would be happy seeing him frogmarched out to a military firing squad; some day shortly after his trial for treason. God help us!
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After that screed, I am inclined to suggest that Kramer go down and plug the hole with himself.
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After that screed, I am inclined to suggest that Kramer go down and plug the hole with himself.
If POTUS rest assured I would put more energy into plugging the leak than I've thus far witnessed from King Barry.
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To just plug the hole would be a lot simpler if it were not for that mile of water above the hole.
Suitable plugs are easy to imagine , but hard to put in place useing the availible robots.
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To just plug the hole would be a lot simpler if it were not for that mile of water above the hole.
Suitable plugs are easy to imagine , but hard to put in place useing the availible robots.
Since Obama's government was involved in allowing BP to continue operations along with the fact federal regulators accepted gifts from the Oil Industry I would like some explanations.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266112115488640.html?mod=e2tw (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266112115488640.html?mod=e2tw)
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i'm telling you....Hillary will be the nominee in 2012!
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i'm telling you....Hillary will be the nominee in 2012!
good, that will not improve Dem chances of winning.
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good, that will not improve Dem chances of winning.
Rasmussen study:
Obama's approval at all-time low.
56% disapprove. Ties all-time record.
(http://www.lucianne.com/images/lucianne/DailyPhoto/2010-05-25-JQWNG.jpg)
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but Kramer let me add....
I think Hillary would be a VERY FORMIDABLE 2012 candidate for several reasons.
normally the party in power can't sell "change" when they are running in elections
but the Democrats could do this if Hillary ran....
Hillary has kept her distance from Obama
Obama/Hillary is very unlike Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Ect....
In the public's eyes Hillary is not that closely linked with Obama.
Hillary would not be seen as an "incumbent".
Hillary now has foreign policy experience...so that would be a plus
Hillary's name recognition is a no-brainer.
Hillary is a savy campaigner....has all the contacts...all the money.
Hillary could campaign in the Fall and say "how would you like to go back
to the days of the Clinton Economy when we had a surplus?
If the Democrats forsee Obama as losing in 2012, then they could
plug Hillary in there and better free themselves from the Obama
baggage....Hillary could be sold as a "moderate" compared to Obama.
I would bet Hillary could give any Republican I see out there
right now a real run for their money in 2012.
(http://ndn2.newsweek.com/media/59/hillary-calderon-mexico-wide-horizontal.jpg)
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Obama needs to stop looking at himself in the mirror (nobody's impressed anymore) and get off his ass.
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Any way you look at it, the gusher in the Gulf is BP's fault. They drilled the hole, they had the rig built, they ran the show, and they messed up. It is not the President's fault.
There are a very limited number of people that have the knowledge and experience to deal with this gusher. And only a few even have the equipment to plug a hole a mile under the sea. If BP is in charge or the Feds seize control, those who do the actual work will be the same individuals. There was a poll this morning in the Miami Herald, in which 50% said the Feds should take charge and 50% said that BP should retain control. I do not think it makes really much difference. Rightwingers will blame the President for not taking control and if he does, then they will accuse him of doing it all wrong. He is not a petroleum geologist, he can only dictate to those who are. No one wants this to go on any longer than possible.
It is a mess, and it's BP's mess. Blaming the Feds for messing up and not forcing BP to do it right does not cut it for me.
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Any way you look at it, the gusher in the Gulf is BP's fault. They drilled the hole, they had the rig built, they ran the show, and they messed up. It is not the President's fault.
There are a very limited number of people that have the knowledge and experience to deal with this gusher. And only a few even have the equipment to plug a hole a mile under the sea. If BP is in charge or the Feds seize control, those who do the actual work will be the same individuals. There was a poll this morning in the Miami Herald, in which 50% said the Feds should take charge and 50% said that BP should retain control. I do not think it makes really much difference. Rightwingers will blame the President for not taking control and if he does, then they will accuse him of doing it all wrong. He is not a petroleum geologist, he can only dictate to those who are. No one wants this to go on any longer than possible.
It is a mess, and it's BP's mess. Blaming the Feds for messing up and not forcing BP to do it right does not cut it for me.
When a person does a home addition or builds a new home GOVERNMENT inspectors are there to make sure the job is done to code. Betcha the gov inspectors were dirty just like they are in Chicago. Get my drift?
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You have no drift.
This is not home inspection.
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You have no drift.
This is not home inspection.
Well then why not lend them one of your suppositories? That should fill the hole!
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It is a mess, and it's BP's mess. Blaming the Feds for messing up and not forcing BP to do it right does not cut it for me.
I can go along with that , but President Obamas spokespeople proclaimed him on the job day one , as it turns out there isn't much role for him to play ,and pronouncements that they have a boot on the BP neck are not effective for much either.
Part of the Administration problem is sequential placement of feet in mouth , remove left foot from mouth replace with right , repeat and repeat.
In reality President Obama didn't cause the oil leak any more than President Bush caused a hurricane , but people expect a lot of a president , and the presidents staff are not always perfectly well spoken.
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Rightwingers will blame the President for not taking control....
Is James Carville now a "rightwinger"?
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people are dying!
good ole James Carville
Obama = Capt. Joseph Jeffrey Hazelwood
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Plug the damn hole!"
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James Carville is one of the few people who looks like what he is: a mean-spirited asshole. I have never liked or trusted him.
Dave Barry was correct when he said that White guys who shave themselves bald look like giant thumbs.
Carville looks like a giant thumb with a really ugly face.
I deem him perfect for the role of the AntiChrist in some apocalyptic flick.
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Yea, how dare anyone criticize "the chosen". Bastard
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James Carville is one of the few people who looks like what he is: a mean-spirited asshole. I have never liked or trusted him.
Dave Barry was correct when he said that White guys who shave themselves bald look like giant thumbs.
Carville looks like a giant thumb with a really ugly face.
I deem him perfect for the role of the AntiChrist in some apocalyptic flick.
you and your liberal brothers constantly harp on people about their looks. XO I've seen ugly -- and I've seen your picture and you are one ugly MF. So stop criticizing others about the way they look. Oh and you have very little hair to speak of.
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"Rightwingers will blame the President for not taking control...."
"James Carville is one of the few people who looks like what he is: a mean-spirited asshole"
So is Democratic US Senator Mary Landrieu a "rightwinger" or an "asshole"?"
Democratic Senator Landrieu stated she was "absolutely not satisfied
with the administration's response so far".
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37878.html (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37878.html)
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"Rightwingers will blame the President for not taking control...."
"James Carville is one of the few people who looks like what he is: a mean-spirited asshole"
So is Democrat Chris Mattews also a "rightwinger" or an "asshole"?
Chris Matthews Blasts Obama:
"The Gulf Of Mexico Is More Important Than A Presidency"
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-the-gulf-of-mexico-is-more-important-than-a-presidency/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-the-gulf-of-mexico-is-more-important-than-a-presidency/)
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"Rightwingers will blame the President for not taking control...."
"James Carville is one of the few people who looks like what he is: a mean-spirited asshole"
So is Democrat Chris Mattews also a "rightwinger" or an "asshole"?
Chris Matthews Blasts Obama:
?The Gulf Of Mexico Is More Important Than A Presidency?
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-the-gulf-of-mexico-is-more-important-than-a-presidency/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-the-gulf-of-mexico-is-more-important-than-a-presidency/)
I guess he lost that tingling feeling going up his leg.
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I guess he lost that tingling feeling going up his leg.
Kramer I think Chris Mattews may have lost the
"tingling feeling up his leg" but it looks like XO still has it as strong as ever!
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I guess he lost that tingling feeling going up his leg.
Kramer I think Chris Mattews may have lost the
"tingling feeling up his leg" but it looks like XO still has it as strong as ever!
XO is selectively deaf, dumb & blind. And his big thrill in life is his daily suppository insertion.
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Is it required for operations like this to have an updated disaster recovery plan? Yes, I AM BACK!
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if you are president bush yes but if you are president obama then no but it's bush's fault no matter what. I hope that clarifies the rules for you.
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seriously, why is no one clamoring to see such a plan if it does exist, and, if not, why not?
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seriously, why is no one clamoring to see such a plan if it does exist, and, if not, why not?
seriously, because Obama is president and we have affirmative action happening in order to make him look better than he really is, seriously that's why. Oh and of course all the press that has carried his water up to now has to save face so the mirage continues. You know the emperor has no cloths syndrome.
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seriously, why is no one clamoring to see such a plan if it does exist, and, if not, why not?
There was a plan. The blowout preventer was the plan.
When it failed, there turned out to be no real plan B.
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Pretty shabby disaster recovery plan. Perhaps the Feds need to addresss this issue in present and future drilling ops.
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I thought the blow out was plan b
plan c is being thought out now
it`s some kind of capping system with a really lame bottle analogy
whats not known(by the public) is why it`s so hard to do.
the answer is since this has never been done, all solution thought up is really guesswork.
and still the oil is flowing right now.
so the answer to how hard is it to stop a oil leak-- super hard
anybody who says otherwise has nothing to back it up
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whats not known(by the public) is why it`s so hard to do.
the answer is since this has never been done, all solution thought up is really guesswork.
and still the oil is flowing right now.
so the answer to how hard is it to stop a oil leak-- super hard
anybody who says otherwise has nothing to back it up
It's not the first oil spill from an offshore rig. Previous spills were stopped by drilling relief wells - which BP has been working on for quite a while now.
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that`s true and I belive they`re being made right now, but those take weeks. but for a immediate solution it`s all theory at this very moment.
but I find all this very interesting ,because this really is the best that can be done. nobody is dragging thier feet trying to stop this and they still can`t figure this out yet.
nobody predicted the ice crystal on ther 1st try.