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sirs

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Re: Teen mothers "sluts"
« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2008, 12:54:27 AM »
<<Yea, you're right, sick really does do a better job of describing your level of "compassion" for their loss>>

Ohh, bullshit, sirs, this has nothing whatsoever to do with "compassion for their loss."  

It has everything to do with compassion for their loss.  YOU'RE the one claiming how bizzare some are who dare have a funeral for that loss.  And apparently it's because it's a fetus, and not a "human", (in order to dehumanize the unborn child, neing the likely rationalization).  Funny how that "fetus" looked just like an premature infant little girl, arms, legs, eyes, ears, the works.  But what do you care, it's "just a fetus" to you.


I've been there myself, more than once.  Most folks have.  This has got more to do with their exhibitionism and their political point-making (or your making political points off of their foolishness) by holding funerals for fetuses. 

Ahh, let's add another Tee adjective to these grieving parents.  Now they're fools.  Keep digging Tee.  On 2nd thought, best stop now
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« Reply #91 on: February 14, 2008, 01:35:37 AM »
<<Funny how that "fetus" looked just like an premature infant little girl, arms, legs, eyes, ears, the works.  But what do you care, it's "just a fetus" to you.>>

Barbie dolls look human too.  What's next for these wack jobs, funerals for broken Barbie dolls?  I'm guessing you don't have babies, don't have much experience with babies, never raised a child and like most typical conservatives don't know what the fuck they are talking about, when they attempt to pontificate on real-life issues, but here from my limited experience of life I will attempt to clue you in:

A baby is a lot more than something, some lump of tissue, which "looked just like a premature infant little girl.

A baby is a tiny little person you hold in your arms, heartbeat to heartbeat, cradle, kiss, wash, feed, change diapers for, lie down next to, rock to sleep, take outside for fresh air, listen to her crying, dress, undress, take the temperature of, bring to the paediatrician, show off to your friends and family, try to interpret the meaning of whatever sounds she is making, marvel over each stage of development, compare with friends' and neighbours' children, try to decipher family traits in her ever-changing features, show her to herself in the mirror cheek-to-cheek with you, put your finger in her tiny little grip to feel her close on it, watch her attempts to communicate vocally with her own fingers or with the mobile hung over her crib, wonder if those cries are teething pains, talk to, sing to, make funny noises for and about ten thousand other things.

Anyway, that IMHO is the difference between a baby and a fetus, and it is also an indication of why it is so much more awful to lose a baby than a fetus.  You cannot compare the two and your friends should not.  Most people will grieve and mourn the death of a fetus.  It's normal.  Very few will hold a fetus funeral - - not only is it not normal, it is sick, weird and bizarre, as is any comparison by which fetuses are made to appear as anything near the equivalent of a child in terms of humanity or in terms of loss.

You seem to think that all truth in these matters is subjective - - that if one couple is so grief-struck by the loss of a fetus or in such deep mourning that only a funeral will give proper expression to that grief or that mourning, then this "proves" that the fetus was really a human being.  But the issue of the humanity of the fetus is really much more objective - - the argument for the humanity of the fetus would be if it were universally or near-universally accepted, or common in civilized parts  of the world, for funerals to be held for fetuses, you might be able to argue that mankind accepts fetuses as humans.  That those who don't are the wackos and weirdos.  But in fact experience teaches otherwise - - very few fetuses receive funerals.  So few in fact that it appears that what we are witnessing at a fetal funeral is not a proof of the humanity of the fetus but of the craziness and weirdness of the people conducting the funeral.

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Re: Teen mothers "sluts"
« Reply #92 on: February 14, 2008, 03:15:44 AM »
<<Funny how that "fetus" looked just like an premature infant little girl, arms, legs, eyes, ears, the works.  But what do you care, it's "just a fetus" to you.>>

Barbie dolls look human too.  What's next for these wack jobs, funerals for broken Barbie dolls? 

You've seriously gone off the deep end.  I tried to warn you to stop, but no, you had to go right on and make a complete ass of yourself.  Your "funeral"


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« Reply #93 on: February 14, 2008, 10:39:19 AM »
On the contrary, sirs, your defence of the utterly absurd idea of fetus funerals leaves you open to ridicule, simply because what you are promoting is ridiculous.  The Barbie doll analogy was appropriate to the lameness of your claim that the fetus "looked like a little girl with little arms and little legs" (some of us can tell the difference) and it was also apt to question whether your wack-job friends would have posted an obit for their "baby" in the local press.

I really don't know how you can continue to defend such an asinine practice as fetus funerals, all the time screaming at how irrational and far-out your critics are.  You defend a stupid idea, and in so doing, get trapped in one stupidity piled on another, and claim that anyone who opposes this sick, morbid display is somehow embarrassing himself.  Doesn't work, sirs.  Readers will decide for themselves which of us is right.  Your "predictions" on that score are meaningless.


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« Reply #94 on: February 14, 2008, 10:48:13 AM »
 suggest that if adoption is such a splendid solution to an unwanted pregnancy, that some of you fetuslovers put your money where your large, flapping mouths are and start an organization to advertise to pregnant women that childbirth and adoption is available, and then link up the mothers with the prospective adopting parents.

This would require no laws at all and could eliminate a huge number of the fetus 'murders' you claim to hate.

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Re: Teen mothers "sluts"
« Reply #95 on: February 14, 2008, 10:51:25 AM »
suggest that if adoption is such a splendid solution to an unwanted pregnancy, that some of you fetuslovers put your money where your large, flapping mouths are and start an organization to advertise to pregnant women that childbirth and adoption is available, and then link up the mothers with the prospective adopting parents.

That's been going on for a large number of years.
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« Reply #96 on: February 14, 2008, 11:50:07 AM »
Precisely
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« Reply #97 on: February 14, 2008, 01:25:53 PM »
Then spend your efforts on that, and after you get the word out to prospective women, just leave them to make their own decision.
There isn't going to be an anti-abortion amendment. The people don't want one.
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« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2008, 01:31:20 PM »
Who's pushing for some amendment?  Personally, I'm pushing to allow the states to decide for themselves, and get the Fed out of it, all together
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« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2008, 02:15:45 PM »
but that mean a person who wants one will have to go to the next state to get one.
quite few prolifers will not like this
remember the druggist that not only refuse to fill the prescription for the morning after pill but stop the girl from getting the pill anywhere else.
so maybe a ban on teenage girls crossing stateline will be made
sounds crazy but not impposible to be done

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« Reply #100 on: February 14, 2008, 02:21:47 PM »
Let the states decide.  The Constitution clearly indicates anything not specifically to be addressed by the Fed, is to be addressed by the State.  Simple as that.  Same applies to UHC
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Re: Teen mothers "sluts"
« Reply #101 on: February 14, 2008, 02:22:24 PM »
remember the druggist that not only refuse to fill the prescription for the morning after pill but stop the girl from getting the pill anywhere else.

How does a pharmacist prevent someone from getting a prescription filled at another store? Chain her up in the back?
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« Reply #102 on: February 14, 2008, 03:44:30 PM »
the pharmacist keep the prescription so she`ll may get delayed enough to not be able the take the pill
this case is funny because nobody ever take about the fact the prersciption was kept
just about the right of the pharmacy to refuse

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« Reply #103 on: February 14, 2008, 03:55:52 PM »
the pharmacist keep the prescription so she`ll may get delayed enough to not be able the take the pill
this case is funny because nobody ever take about the fact the prersciption was kept
just about the right of the pharmacy to refuse

I don't think it was ever documented that any prescriptions were kept.

Regardless, it's trivial to call the doctor's office and have them fax a copy of the prescription to the drug store. I've done it before, when I lost the original prescription. And the delay would only be a matter of minutes.
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« Reply #104 on: February 14, 2008, 04:17:18 PM »
for you it`s trivial to get a prescription on the phone
but that does mean everybody else has the same option.
in fact i never even heard of calling a doctor for a new prescription
meaning not a common thing to be generally known .
and that article was posted here which stated the prescription was withheld
that store went the extramile to not have her get those pills