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Re: Ariana Huffington on the election - the victory of hope over fear
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2008, 12:21:21 AM »
capitalism/corruption
Tomato/tomaato

Mexico is probly a lot less socialist than US. Their workers are poorer and their rich are richer- pure capitalism at its worst. Carlos Slim, the second richest man in the world is out of that smaller economy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim_HelĂș
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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2008, 12:38:05 AM »
Socialism is an economic system, it can be corrupt, or not. Capitalism is another economic system, it can also be corrupt, or not

Capitalist countries are the most unequal on the planet. Nigeria is exponentially more corrupt than Mexico.
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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2008, 06:27:43 AM »
Socialism is an economic system, it can be corrupt, or not. Capitalism is another economic system, it can also be corrupt, or not

Capitalist countries are the most unequal on the planet. Nigeria is exponentially more corrupt than Mexico.

So Mexico is socialist in some measure because the National government is the owner of one of its most lucrative industries?

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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2008, 11:03:53 AM »
Socialism is an economic system, it can be corrupt, or not. Capitalism is another economic system, it can also be corrupt, or not

Capitalist countries are the most unequal on the planet. Nigeria is exponentially more corrupt than Mexico.

So Mexico is socialist in some measure because the National government is the owner of one of its most lucrative industries?

By this measure the US became much more socialist then Mexico under the Bushidiot  by essentially taking over the financial system. Who knew you Bushidolaters were such socialists.

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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2008, 11:11:44 AM »
So Mexico is socialist in some measure because the National government is the owner of one of its most lucrative industries?

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I doubt very seriously that PEMEX is even in th top ten most lucrative industries of Mexico most years. It's not run very well, or even very safely. Probably safer than it would be if it belonged to the previous US owners. They are the ones who run the nastiest facilities, in Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea and Ecuador.
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2008, 05:42:42 PM »
Socialism is an economic system, it can be corrupt, or not. Capitalism is another economic system, it can also be corrupt, or not

Capitalist countries are the most unequal on the planet. Nigeria is exponentially more corrupt than Mexico.

So Mexico is socialist in some measure because the National government is the owner of one of its most lucrative industries?

By this measure the US became much more socialist then Mexico under the Bushidiot  by essentially taking over the financial system. Who knew you Bushidolaters were such socialists.

That is actually a good point Knute.

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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2008, 05:52:27 PM »
One could question whether financial services are actually producers of anything. Mostly, they are bookkeepers.
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2008, 05:55:16 PM »
One could question whether financial services are actually producers of anything. Mostly, they are bookkeepers.


And ...?

Bookeeping should be free?

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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2008, 05:59:58 PM »
Bookkeeping is a service, not a product. So ownership of the means of production might not apply to bookkeeping.

I have been providing free advise here for years.
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