Need for change.

[sirs]

When every American can get adequate health care and every American child has the chance to get enough education to live a productive life, then we will be taxed enough. 

No, No, No.  Adequate doesn't cut it.  Quality is what cuts it, and the quality of healthcare is shredded, when its rationed, and made to be applied to everyone

The average Black family has $200 in liquid assets.
The average Hispanic family has $300.
The average White family has $23000.

Even if those #'s were accurate, not only does it not include the context of what decisions went in to accrue those assets, you'll never "fix" those underlying decision making, by simply taking $$$$ from the wealthier, more successful, and simply give it to those who have less.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Poverty has been abolished in Scandinavia. Only the most recent immigrants are actually poor in those countries.
Since it HAS BEEN DONE, that proves that is CAN BE DONE.

How many fucking Donald Trumps and Rupert Murdocks does this country need?

[sirs]

We're not Scandinavia.  They are a mere fraction of our population nor have the same global & financial obligations.  That's like claiming the since the corner lemonade stand is holding its own, we need to apply that model to Minute Maid lemonade.

In other words, it might be able to be done.... on a tiny local level, where Government has full control of all assets.  it can't be done on a country wide scale, the size of the United States.  Too much freedom and quality is lost in the effort

And in this country, there can be as many Trumps, Steyers, Murdocks, Spielburgs, Gates, and Kennedy's, as their want to be.  It has squat to do with need, and everything to do with Freedom

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is no freedom in any country where you can go bankrupt just trying to stay alive.

Anything that can work for 10 million can be made to work for 300 million: medicine focuses on the individual patient, anyway.

Medicine for unlimited profit is unsustainable.

[Plane]

Poverty has been abolished in Scandinavia. Only the most recent immigrants are actually poor in those countries.
Since it HAS BEEN DONE, that proves that is CAN BE DONE.

  All right , remove from the USA all recent immigrants and poverty would be reduced quite a bit here too. Imagine what would happen to unemployment here if we had the same level of immigration that Norway has. Sending just the ten or twelve million here against the law would open seven million jobs at least and eliminate unemployment entirely.  Since we cannot do that, we are pulling the standard of living up in two continents, and we cannot eliminate poverty in California until we eliminate poverty all the way to Tierra Del Fuego.

How many fucking Donald Trumps and Rupert Murdocks does this country need?

.....I thought you liked socialism?

More is better! We have half of us paying very small taxes because five percent of us pay 80% of all taxes.

So we need to double or triple the Trumps available if we are going to eliminate poverty on their backs.

If we had three times the number of people available at Hillary Clintons income level then we would be able to increase the receipt of income tax by 240%.

Without changing the rules a bit.  The math is easy since at the super earner level Hillary hangs out at pays 80% of the taxes tripling this class is increasing available tax 3x80=240.

      This is why the very wealthy and Socialists secretly love each other.

[sirs]

There is no freedom in any country where you can go bankrupt just trying to stay alive.

That has nothing to do with Freedom

Anything that can work for 10 million can be made to work for 300 million

No, not when there are many other exponentially more factors involved, especially on a Global scale

medicine focuses on the individual patient, anyway.

PRECISELY, which is why a government 1 size fits all approach to medicine is COMPLETELY counterproductive in the quality of that medicine that's applied.  I'm there...I'm witnessing it first hand

Medicine for unlimited profit is unsustainable.

Medicine is medicine.  It was not being sold to the highest bidder in our previous healthcare system.  Nor was it being set up as a profit-only endeavor.  it was working GREAT for the vast majority of this country.  Not its screwed for the vast majority of this country, but at least now, more people are involved in the getting screwed part....which again was not so much the goal perhaps, but was absolutely the expectation of those who were warning the country ahead of time of precisely that impending outcome