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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2011, 11:29:31 PM »
Terrorists and antiterrorists

What is the end goal of these terrorists in this war?

What type of society do they envision?
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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 12:04:39 AM »
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What is the end goal of these terrorists in this war?

What type of society do they envision?

I would guess that they want to be the ones calling the shots.

Else why engage in terror?


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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 12:14:43 AM »
BT....I must say you are damn good dancer! LOL

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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2011, 12:58:07 AM »
Al Qaeda is a reactionary resistance that seeks to impose Islamic law and go back to the "Good Old Days", in something like what Ronald Reagan's desire to return to the 1940's and 1950's. It is doomed to failure, as are all back the the good old days movements, because time does not travel backwards, you cannot uninvent the thousands of modern devices that have changed our society and every other society on the planet, and of course, the "Good Old Days" were far sweeter in memories than they ever were in reality.

Most of the resistance to the US is a resistance to the cultural colonialism that all Western societies impose on the world through marketing, advertising, innovation and the media. There are consequences to showing prosperous Americans enjoying their comfy homes and cars and other acoutrements to Third World people in which women actually have opinions that are listened to, homes do not have packed dirt floors, water does not have to be carried in from a village well and boiled every morning and transportation is by automobile, subway, airplane and bus and never, ever by donkey, horse of camel.
 
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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2011, 01:49:41 AM »
not quite.

a very large part of our technology is not self contained electricity,phones ,computers etc.

meaning it`s not exactly hard to forcebly take away from the general population. so the good old days can be obtained without people liking it.

actually upon further thought I believe tecchnology may make us more of a target of takeover, it`s not exactly making the general population independent thinkers.

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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2011, 09:35:13 AM »
Al Qaeda is a reactionary resistance that seeks to impose Islamic law.....

OMG XO....thank you!
Finally someone can admit the obvious!
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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2011, 09:39:01 AM »
There are consequences to showing prosperous Americans enjoying their comfy homes and cars and other acoutrements to Third World people in which women actually have opinions that are listened to, homes do not have packed dirt floors, water does not have to be carried in from a village well and boiled every morning and transportation is by automobile, subway, airplane and bus and never, ever by donkey, horse of camel.
I think....umm....not totally sure....but I think we agree....at least in part!

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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2011, 11:48:10 AM »
I am not a supporter of Al Qaewda, and I think Muslim extremists are every bit as bad and occasionally worse than Christian extremists. The real Christian extremists one could compare with the Taliban belong to a past era. I would say Girolamo Savanarola, with his regular "Bonfire of the Vanities" was clearly of a Taliban mindset, and rather than behead people, which is barbaric and quick, he preferred to burn them alive, which is barbaric and excruciatingly slow. As I understand it, if you confessed your sins before they set you on fire, they would strangle you first. Or at least that was the policy of the Santo Oficio (the Holy Office) during the time of Torquemada.

The Inquisition was the equivalent of the Taliban. But they only had to deal with heretical books and singers of heretical songs, like the Goliards. The Taliban has to deal with American Idol contestants in hotpants and reruns of Baywatch, complete with jug jiggling, and Rap videos. I think that an hour flipping through the channels on satellite TV could have cause Torquemada to have been won over by Satan himself.

I disagree that it is easy to get rid of technology. The Shah had an extensive police state, and Savak was very efficient, but He was unable to keep out the Ayatollahs' cassette tapes and video tapes. The Soviets could not progress without computers and could not maintain their control with computers, and finally had to give up.

You can only temporarily ban technology, and mostly all your banning does is make it even more desirable.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda are doomed. But so is our status quo. Nothing stays as it was. Everything changes, and change is coming faster and faster.

 There will be more technology, it is relentless and unpreventable, and its effects are unknown until it is thoroughly entrenched.
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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2011, 11:51:07 AM »
what xo said can be viewed in a different angle
your family are sick and hungry and the immoral americans can solve all those problems,but won`t because they don`t care.

that statement said enough will helpany guy gain power in alot of countries



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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2011, 11:55:43 AM »
It is also TRUE.

Uncle Faisal died of dengue fever, a seizure, a stroke, diabetes, or something else treatable.

Those EMT's on satellite TV brought people in far worse shape back to life. They have the Magic Paddles: All they do is shout "Clear!" and poof! the dead are returned to the land of the living. Americans do that all the time. We all saw it on TV.

Why not Uncle Faisal? The Americans do not care.
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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2011, 12:34:09 PM »
OMG XO....thank you!
Finally someone can admit the obvious!
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Notice everyone, how sirs can turn even gratitude into some sort of putdown.
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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2011, 01:13:43 PM »
OMG XO....thank you!
Finally someone can admit the obvious!

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Notice everyone, how sirs can turn even gratitude into some sort of putdown.


 ???   Since when did I make a response to this thread, except for now??  Boy, the way you and Bt seem to make extra efforts to try and demean/degrade my standing here........arguably explains a lot
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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2011, 02:39:05 PM »
Al Qaeda is a reactionary resistance that seeks to impose Islamic law.....

OMG XO....thank you!
Finally someone can admit the obvious!

Should a sovereign Islamic nation be allowed to be governed under Islamic Law?



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Re: TIME Mag Editor: "Burning the Koran Is Worse Than Burning Bible"
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2011, 02:57:39 PM »
Should a sovereign Islamic nation be allowed to be governed under Islamic Law?

Should a sovereign nation like Libya be allowed to be goverened under Khadafi Law?
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