Trying to understand Liberals

[sirs]

Convicted of killing a cop....song about that convicted cop killer....ergo a song about a cop killer

But nice to know how the insults are flying high.  You & BsB are definately good at something.  Take pride in that

And thanks for helping to demonstrate to Bt how the idea of trying to "be nice" to someone who appears on the surface to be a member of "the enemy" would manifest itself

[BT]

I don't recall saying you had to be nice. I have said that i don't think debates should be about the person you are debating.

I was just curious why you considered XO an enemy and what you hoped to accomplish by treating him as such?

[sirs]

We already addressed your erroneous conclusion of my calling Xo "the enemy".  Perception is not reality.  Best stick with asking him what his goals of this country are, then you can address the notion of sirs referring to him as "the enemy", and what that actually means. ........ Hint, it's doesn't mean he's evil

[Xavier_Onassis]

A song about a person falsely accused of killing a cop is not a song about a cop killer.


A song about a cop killer would be a song in which the cop deserved to die, and perhaps recommendations about how bad cops should be killed in the future.

Woody Guthrie sang a famous song about Pretty Boy Floyd, who did kill a cop, I believe. Should anyone who has ever sung this song be excluded from the White House?  I used to help run a coffeehouse, and almost all the singers knew this song, as well as songs about Jesse James.

How about this one:

Bonnie and Clyde is a 1967 American crime film directed by Arthur Penn and starring Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway as the title characters Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker. The film features Michael J. Pollard, Gene Hackman and Estelle Parsons, with Denver Pyle, Dub Taylor, Gene Wilder, Evans Evans and Mabel Cavitt. The screenplay was written by David Newman and Robert Benton, adapted from the exploits of legendary crime duo Bonnie and Clyde. Robert Towne and Beatty provided uncredited contributions to the script; Beatty also produced the film. The soundtrack was composed by Charles Strouse.

Shall we exclude all these people from WH invitations as well?

[BT]

If XO is in favor of a more socialistic government then he is your enemy.

Originally the enemy was liberalism, in which XO believes, then you qualified it further, so we need more data to see if XO still is your enemy.

Which makes my statement in #13 true, for the moment.

[Xavier_Onassis]

in nature quite afew animals in stressed situation have miscarriages as a survival mechanism. suppose alarge percent of miscarriage are found to be deliberate would natural abortion be frowned upon by pro-life?
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In nature there are more than a few animals in which the mother kills and eats one or more of the recently born young to assure her survival and that of the rest of the litter. Cats do this, so do some birds.

Then we have insects in which the mother kills and eats the father, or the recently hatched kill and eat the mother.

And there are rodents, who eat their poop and/or feed it to their young.

It is pretty tricky to apply what we see as natural law as being a  divine recommendation.

[sirs]

A song about a person falsely accused of killing a cop is not a song about a cop killer.

Not accurate, as the person was convicted in the murder of a cop, not falsely accused.  Subsequently upheld on appeal.  FACT, end of story

If XO is in favor of a more socialistic government then he is your enemy.

Yes, IF, he is wanting to turn this country into a socialist one

Originally the enemy was liberalism, in which XO believes, then you qualified it further, so we need more data to see if XO still is your enemy.

No, originally "the enemy" was Liberals who want to turn this country into a socialist one.  NOT evil, just WRONG, and couldn't be more wrong.  Clarity was then provided for better grasp of the point that was being made

[Xavier_Onassis]

Jury verdicts are not statements of absolute truth, everyone knows that.

People have the right to believe whatever they wish.

singing in a song that someone was falsely accused does not make anyone an accomplice.

[R.R.]

singing in a song that someone was falsely accused does not make anyone an accomplice.

It's a celebration of that person.

He also advocated killing George W. Bush in a song. Common is not somebody that is an appropriate person to perform at the White House. Neither are the other two poets that Obama invited who are against interracial marriage.

They just don't represent the values of the American people.

[kimba1]

made me think of mumia and decided to wiki him

4 witnesses and a yelled confession" I killed the shot the bleep and hope he dies"not exact quote.

and still he has global support

all I keep thinking how much more proof is needed? youtube videos?

truthfully he`s be dead now if it wasn`t for the support

[sirs]

Jury verdicts are not statements of absolute truth, everyone knows that.

Doesn't matter what you "feel", and no one is claiming you can't feel or believe anything you want.  It's called the Elvis Facter.  Its still a FACT, that the person in question has been convicted, by a Judge & Jury, in the murder of a cop, UPHELD ON APPEAL

singing in a song that someone was falsely accused does not make anyone an accomplice.

and again with the DEFLECTION of trying to claim false accusation, or that a songwriter is an an accomplice to the murder, if they glorify them in song.  You best stop while you're........oh, too late.

[Plane]

It was not a song about a "cop killer" you moron. It was a song about a woman falsely accused of killing a cop. Whether she killed the cop or not is irrelevant, unless the song recommends killing cops, and it does not.

Look, you will NEVER convince me of your macho Biblical pro-fetus crap about abortion. I have given up on all of you, and so just take your stupid "pro life" crap and shove it, I am not addressing it here any more. There is nothing left to say, the horse is dead and even the bones are sinking into the ooze.

I have been avoiding Bible refrences till now , but if you insist , do be aware that it is strictly the biblical view that protects your own right to live.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I have been avoiding Bible refrences till now , but if you insist , do be aware that it is strictly the biblical view that protects your own right to live.

Only if I am a fetus.

I am not a fetus.

[Plane]

I have been avoiding Bible refrences till now , but if you insist , do be aware that it is strictly the biblical view that protects your own right to live.

Only if I am a fetus.

I am not a fetus.

You are not a schoolchild either.

and no it is the social mores that found ther law not the other way around , so it is indeed Biblical attitudes that protect your right to live.

Why shouldn't we all be just as agnostic about your right to live now as you would have been a few decades ago when you were a fetus ?

[Xavier_Onassis]

You are making no sense at all.