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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 01:07:47 AM »
Not necessarily. It will cost the baby's daddy more than it will ever cost me. But that isn't the point. Why should i as a taxpayer have to pay for her elective surgery. What next, boob jobs? or penile enhancements?

I have no problem if pro-choice groups choose to fund these procedures on a sliding pay scale, i just don't see why it is the governments job to pay for it.


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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2011, 02:09:08 AM »
not all abortions are elective. entopic pregnancy requires it to save the mothers life

 reconstruction surgury for survivors of accidents like that model who walked into a plane recently

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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2011, 11:51:51 AM »
not all abortions are elective

No "only" about 98% are!

.3% of cases caused by a rape or incest
1% of cases caused by a medical risk to the mother
0.5% of cases caused by fetal abnormality.
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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 02:03:49 PM »
just pointing out exception to the rule.


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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 03:21:08 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2011, 03:29:02 PM »
Honest to God I don't what you guys are complaining about? The Hyde Amendment restricts the use of federal funds for abortions down to rape and incest. States can use their own money to grow the eligibility, but none do really from what I can tell. So what's the problem? By reading your posts you'd think medicaid was running a 24 hour abortion clinic on the corner of every poor neighborhood in America. That isn't the case.


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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2011, 04:31:49 PM »
I am certainly on the side of not letting any tax payer dollars (whether it be federal, the state i live in or the local governments that have jurisdiction over me) go to funding abortions or for that matter other elective surgeries.


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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2011, 05:45:43 PM »
So what's the problem? BSB

Planned Parenthood is the largest provider of abortions in the U.S.
For example in 2009 Planned Parenthood performed 332,278 abortions/killings.

Planned Parenthood receives about $360 million a year from the government.

Yeah by law, federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions/killings,
but allocating money to Planned Parenthood for the provision of
other medical services "frees up" funds to be re-allocated for
Planned Parenthood's abortion mill and thats why 6 states have
already passed legislation to defund the murderers at Planned Parenthood.
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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2011, 08:53:09 PM »
Does Planned Parenthood make or loose money providing abortions?

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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2011, 12:47:37 AM »
Planned Parenthood is a charitable organization. It largely is funded by donations.

The teenage pregnancy rate has fallen a lot in the last several years.
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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2011, 01:30:37 AM »
Planned Parenthood is a non profit organization that is funded by donations at 40%- governmental funding at 30% (350 million)and charges for services rendered. In 2007-2008 annual report they showed a profit (revenues in excess of expenses of 85 million on an operating budget of just over 1 billion.




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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2011, 06:10:44 AM »
  Are the employees and officers of Planned Parenthood well compensated?

  Can they be motivated by their carreer to defend and expand their company for the sake of career?

  Do they employ a lobbyist?

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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2011, 11:09:06 AM »
  Are the employees and officers of Planned Parenthood well compensated?

Highest executive is about $400k. Many others are over $200K, and a large number over $100k.

  Can they be motivated by their carreer to defend and expand their company for the sake of career?

That's a given.

  Do they employ a lobbyist?

14 of them, actually. Also well paid.
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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2011, 03:57:30 PM »
This isn't Saudi Arabia. We are a secular nation, governed by laws, we are not governed by beliefs such as abortion is equal to murder. Abortions are legal under the law. If you like Big Government, that meddles in your personal affairs, become a communist, or move to some Islamic country ruled by Sharia Law where women are shackled to a stove, can't drive a car, and have no reproductive freedom choice.

Again, you RINOs/pretend-conservatives don't get it. We open the door in this country, we let the fresh air in, we allow people to make tough personal decisions on their own. We don't make them for them. If the execution of their decision is legal, they're allowed to proceed undeterred. It shouldn't be any other way.


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Re: Pet Peeve
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2011, 04:18:33 PM »
Until their decision is illegal, or that their rights are infringing upon anothers, as governed by our Constitution, not Saudi Arabia's
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