Author Topic: Get ready Mitt! They will attempt to disembowel you to cover their evil agenda!  (Read 12905 times)

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Xavier_Onassis

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Taxes and fish are entirely different things. Money is not fish.

This is the most idiotic idea I have heard, ever.
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Taxes and fish are entirely different things. Money is not fish.

it's called an analogy
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It is a dumb analogy, a poor analogy.
Raising the taxes on income over a million by 5% and ending the dividend tax break is not the same as unrestricted cod fishing.
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Nor will it even dent our debt
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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It is what needs to be done, and it clearly will have an impact.
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A: no it doesnt "need" to be done, regardless of your hatred and jealously of those who apparently have made a better success for themselves and family, than yourself

B: It clearly could.......it could make our economic & unemployment situation far worse
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It is what needs to be done, and it clearly will have an impact.

Raising taxes 5% on those making over a million will generate about $36 billion. Ending the "tax holiday" will generate about $120 billion. This total is under $160 billion, or about 2 weeks of running the government. Right now, our yearly deficit amounts to about 160 days per year of deficit spending, so this change will only take care of 10% of our problem. It's not nearly enough.
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It is what needs to be done, and it clearly will have an impact.

Raising taxes 5% on those making over a million will generate about $36 billion. Ending the "tax holiday" will generate about $120 billion. This total is under $160 billion, or about 2 weeks of running the government. Right now, our yearly deficit amounts to about 160 days per year of deficit spending, so this change will only take care of 10% of our problem. It's not nearly enough.

I wonder if any response would include "Well, we 'need' to start somewhere"      :-\
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It is a dumb analogy, a poor analogy.
Raising the taxes on income over a million by 5% and ending the dividend tax break is not the same as unrestricted cod fishing.


  What?

   I can't see the diffrence.

    If you fish too hard you catch less fish.
     If you tax too hard , you can't even buy the boat.

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The amount of fish in the sea declines only where there is overfishing.
The top 1% in this country has increased its percentage of the national wealth by a lot in the last 20 years. Most of the increases in productivity have gone into their ample pockets. They are, in your analogy, teeming with fat, large fish. Raising their taxes by 5% on the bracket over $1 million would simply provide the taxes needed to improve the infrastructure and offset the interest on the national debt. This will benefit nearly all of us.

If these uberrich actually were job creators, they have not done their job by creating more jobs. They have failed to prove that their allegations about how useful they are.

Rather than codfish, think of them as stone crabs, haul them in snap off their large claw and throw them back to grow another.
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If these uberrich actually were job creators, they have not done their job by creating more jobs.

Due in large, if not mostly, to the policies put into place by this adminstration, not to mention state governments like CA, that basically punish the "uberrich", with a blanket of tax schemes, overt regulations, and uncertainty as to what's around the corner.  No sane businessman or woman is going to risk losing so much, under such conditions.  One doesn't have to wonder how a language professor and community organizer, simply don't get that
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Rather than codfish, think of them as stone crabs, haul them in snap off their large claw and throw them back to grow another.


    Very well, that claw is snapped off , but you don't have enough claw, do you change policy, do you change policy and start snapping off two claws per crab?

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We have not snapped off even a portion of one.

Those who have gained the most due to being in this country should pay for the privilege. It is that simple.
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They ALREADY DO
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We have not snapped off even a portion of one.

Those who have gained the most due to being in this country should pay for the privilege. It is that simple.


I see you have grasped the concept.

Those crippled crabs can recover , but there must be a limit to how much you cripple it before you make it unproductive.